On Farm Service Labor Rate

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Re: On Farm Service Labor Rate

Postby callmefence » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:32 am

No matter how skilled you are and how much your phone rings it's bad business to gouge someone. Even when you can. It leaves a bad taste in their mouth that doesn't go away. It makes them very picky and will eventually overshadow the good work you did, and wear on the reputation you worked so hard to build. There is nothing better than having customers that trust you. And vice versa.

Of course you don't wanna be the cheapest guy around either.
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Re: On Farm Service Labor Rate

Postby jltrent » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:36 am

I think those rates are unfair (to high for even skill labor) I always try to go by what my dad always said "live and let live" You want have many billionaires like that though.
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Re: On Farm Service Labor Rate

Postby OleScout » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:43 am

Had to have a large pecan tree removed from my yard. Tree guy priced the job at $1000. Told him to do it.
He arrived the next morning at 7:00am. Tree and his outfit loaded and gone at 8:20am. I could be upset that he made $1000 in 1.33 hours but I'm not. He brought a bob truck, track bobcat with grapple, two guys with chainsaws and himself. He was done before I could have gotten my old saw running. Much easier for me to earn $1000 somewhere else than cutup and load that tree when I don't have the right equipment.
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Re: On Farm Service Labor Rate

Postby Son of Butch » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:49 pm

Pricing a job and charging labor by the hour are 2 different things.
On farm corn dryer and combine repair during harvest are both emergency skill situations, so expected similar rates.
Got hit with both on the same day.

My home owner insurance just got jacked with 55% increase!... no claims ever... So I'm shopping quotes.
I learned my policy pays up to $750 per tree for removal.

By the way $1,000 divided by 4 man hours (1.33 x 3 men) = $250 hour and look at all the equipment he had to bring
all WITHOUT mileage charge!
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Re: On Farm Service Labor Rate

Postby OleScout » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:09 pm

I wasn't whacking your situation and agree that your charge seemed high. My point was that many people feel they are over charged when a guy can come in and finish a job quickly. Tree man said he runs into folks that will try to haggle on price after the job is done because the job didn't take as long as they thought it should.
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Re: On Farm Service Labor Rate

Postby ALACOWMAN » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:37 pm

ddd75 wrote:i won't take my equipment into the JD dealer b/c they charge 105/hr. in ky they only charged 75.

my little motto is.. "if they can do it.. so can I"
was a mechanic, and auto tech.for years until the 90's... Got humbled pretty good, when I had to take a transmission to a repair shop, because of no special tools, manuals or equipment to work on it...
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Re: On Farm Service Labor Rate

Postby Brute 23 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:43 pm

In my life I have no doubt all these trade type services will go thru the roof. Its hard to find people who want to be mechanics, plumbers, carpenters, etc. If you do find some one who is good you better pay they well and hold on to them. Any one who does those trades around and is decent can pretty much write their own checks. They stay covered up also.
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Re: On Farm Service Labor Rate

Postby plumber_greg » Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:31 pm

Son of Butch, I apologize if I came off the way I think I may have this morn.
Any business that wants to stay in business, doesn't care what the competition is charging. They know the cost of doing business in their own world. Charging 190 an hour does no good if it costs them 195 to operate.
Even for a plumber $245 and hour for one man seems high. But if that is what it takes for him to be available the next time you need him maybe that's not so high after all. Especially if you have already had to call someone 120 miles away. Corn at $2.85 means nothing to him unless he has some at home. The only thing that matters to him is, " What does it cost me an hour to stay in business and make a living".
A lot of small business end up buying parts from the same vendors. Prices and profits on them are for the most part already set.
The only way to cover the business costs for some of us is through our labor charges. We're not a big retail store that can hide costs in products we sell, the only way we have is labor charges.
I'll stop now, but want to say that my labor charges were $1,000 per day for 3 men, actually 2 men and one woman. I would split 1/2 days, but if I was there longer than 4 hours, it was one day. Same if I was there 2 hours, it was a 1/2 day. If any equipment was needed, the charge with labor per day was $2500. I was in business 38 years, and depended on repeat customers to stay in business. gs
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Re: On Farm Service Labor Rate

Postby Dave » Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:48 pm

While back I got a bill from my vet. On the bill it listed "75 units". The rate was $2.10 per unit. After a little thought I realized that he had been there for an hour and 15 minutes which is 75 minutes. That is only $126 an hour which isn't too unreasonable. But the fact that he was charging by the minute kind of shocked me. After that I stopped standing around shooting the breeze with him about hunting, sports, and our kids. Get the work done and get him back into his pickup. He is also the vet at the salebarn, so I BS with him on their time.
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Re: On Farm Service Labor Rate

Postby ALACOWMAN » Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:56 pm

Dave wrote:While back I got a bill from my vet. On the bill it listed "75 units". The rate was $2.10 per unit. After a little thought I realized that he had been there for an hour and 15 minutes which is 75 minutes. That is only $126 an hour which isn't too unreasonable. But the fact that he was charging by the minute kind of shocked me. After that I stopped standing around shooting the breeze with him about hunting, sports, and our kids. Get the work done and get him back into his pickup. He is also the vet at the salebarn, so I BS with him on their time.
dont see where they have the time to BS. At the stockyards here,, their shirt tail is flapping till their finished..
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Re: On Farm Service Labor Rate

Postby chevytaHOE5674 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:11 pm

ddd75 wrote:my little motto is.. "if they can do it.. so can I"


That's my motto also except in a case like this where it is harvest and you have a crop that needs to be handled ASAP. Sure I could fix it but what took the service guy 2 hours may take me a few days by the time I diagnose and order/wait for parts. What I would have saved on the service call would have been more than lost in downtime. When things are time sensitive sometimes you have to suck it up and call the experts.
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Re: On Farm Service Labor Rate

Postby ddd75 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:25 pm

chevytaHOE5674 wrote:
ddd75 wrote:my little motto is.. "if they can do it.. so can I"


That's my motto also except in a case like this where it is harvest and you have a crop that needs to be handled ASAP. Sure I could fix it but what took the service guy 2 hours may take me a few days by the time I diagnose and order/wait for parts. What I would have saved on the service call would have been more than lost in downtime. When things are time sensitive sometimes you have to suck it up and call the experts.

of course.. always have to consider the cost of downtime.
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Re: On Farm Service Labor Rate

Postby Dave » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:14 pm

ALACOWMAN wrote:
Dave wrote:While back I got a bill from my vet. On the bill it listed "75 units". The rate was $2.10 per unit. After a little thought I realized that he had been there for an hour and 15 minutes which is 75 minutes. That is only $126 an hour which isn't too unreasonable. But the fact that he was charging by the minute kind of shocked me. After that I stopped standing around shooting the breeze with him about hunting, sports, and our kids. Get the work done and get him back into his pickup. He is also the vet at the salebarn, so I BS with him on their time.
dont see where they have the time to BS. At the stockyards here,, their shirt tail is flapping till their finished..


That is a pretty small sale in Chehalis. Only 300-400 head a day. The vet at the Toppenish sale doesn't have time to eat. They get 2,000-3,000 head per sale.
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Re: On Farm Service Labor Rate

Postby Son of Butch » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:01 pm

Our vet charges labor at $10 in 5 minute increments which breaks down to $2 per minute or $120 hour.
We still B.S. while working, but sure motivates having all animals caught, penned and ready to go to work on arrival.

I assume they switched to that billing system because too often they'd run into situations where they were wasting
too much time waiting for farmers to get their shxt together. I have noticed they don't start the clock as soon as they
pull up either, but more like 3-4 minutes after arrival and we get greetings out of the way and actual work starts.
I appreciate that and makes it more comfortable working together without feeling like every minute is being squeezed
on to the bill.
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Re: On Farm Service Labor Rate

Postby littletom » Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:35 pm

My wife is a vet so I see both sides of it. Thank god I get really cheap rates, might be expensive depends on how you look at it.
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