Ain't Supposed to Happen

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Re: Ain't Supposed to Happen

Post by cfpinz » Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:53 am

JMJ Farms wrote:
ohiosteve wrote: The way that hitch is milled down to recess the ball must have made the hitch a little to thin. Seems like a design flaw.


I agree. Never seen one milled down like that. Is this common practice?


Reese makes them to accommodate a ball that they also sell which has a corresponding hex shape at the base, eliminating the need to have a pipe wrench or vise to hold the ball while tightening.

Five bucks says it's stamped China.


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Re: Ain't Supposed to Happen

Post by True Grit Farms » Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:55 am

cfpinz wrote:
JMJ Farms wrote:
ohiosteve wrote: The way that hitch is milled down to recess the ball must have made the hitch a little to thin. Seems like a design flaw.


I agree. Never seen one milled down like that. Is this common practice?


Reese makes them to accommodate a ball that they also sell which has a corresponding hex shape at the base, eliminating the need to have a pipe wrench or vise to hold the ball while tightening.

Five bucks says it's stamped China.

Definitely junk, you need your head examined for buying such junk.
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Re: Ain't Supposed to Happen

Post by slick4591 » Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:32 am

True Grit Farms wrote:Definitely junk, you need your head examined for buying such junk.


Reread the original post. Not mine. This is what I use.
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Re: Ain't Supposed to Happen

Post by Caustic Burno » Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:38 am

littletom wrote:My guess tongue weight got it. I think those regular duty ones are 5000#


Neighbor has a similar trailer has horrible tongue weight with loads to go the sale barn. Poor design on trailer and receiver hitch looks like.
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Re: Ain't Supposed to Happen

Post by Lucky » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:51 am

That’s scary. She should definitely call the manufacturer and at least let them know what happened so they can look into the design flaw (if there is one). They are making them with the hex cast into them now so you only need one wrench to tighten the ball.

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Re: Ain't Supposed to Happen

Post by Kingfisher » Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:34 pm

Why is the bottom of the ball thread stud bent? Or is it just the pic?
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Re: Ain't Supposed to Happen

Post by JMJ Farms » Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:45 pm

Kingfisher wrote:Why is the bottom of the ball thread stud bent? Or is it just the pic?


My guess would be that when the hitch broke, the safety chain looks to have enough slack that the tongue probably hit the pavement. Real hard.
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Re: Ain't Supposed to Happen

Post by ddd75 » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:58 pm

i use the same size to haul my 4x8 trailer with my quad........

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Re: Ain't Supposed to Happen

Post by greybeard » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:04 pm

ohiosteve wrote:That sure could have ended badly. The way that hitch is milled down to recess the ball must have made the hitch a little to thin. Seems like a design flaw. I'm glad no one got hurt.

The shallow (1/8" ? ) depth of that stamping or milling shouldn't have been enough to weaken it to the point of complete failure. There's more to it than just the absence of thickness in that area.
IF, the hole for the ball stud was punched instead of drilled, it could weakened it enough, but seems like every one they built that way would have failed.
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Re: Ain't Supposed to Happen

Post by ohiosteve » Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:21 am

greybeard wrote:
ohiosteve wrote:That sure could have ended badly. The way that hitch is milled down to recess the ball must have made the hitch a little to thin. Seems like a design flaw. I'm glad no one got hurt.

The shallow (1/8" ? ) depth of that stamping or milling shouldn't have been enough to weaken it to the point of complete failure. There's more to it than just the absence of thickness in that area.
IF, the hole for the ball stud was punched instead of drilled, it could weakened it enough, but seems like every one they built that way would have failed.

If I take a piece of flat stock and drill an hole in the middle of it and then try to bend it, it will bend at the hole every time. If I grind each side of the hole it will bend at the hole even easier. That's all I'm saying.
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Re: Ain't Supposed to Happen

Post by Nesikep » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:27 am

It may have been unduly stressed a long time ago, not with this trailer.. lets say they had a trailer on and the trailer flopped on its side, or that hitch was in an accident at some point.. some stress fractures and then repeated loading later spread them.
without taking a close look at the break it's hard to tell.

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Re: Ain't Supposed to Happen

Post by wbvs58 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:16 am

Lucky that safety chain held, look at the twist in it.

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Re: Ain't Supposed to Happen

Post by elkwc » Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:51 am

littletom wrote:My guess tongue weight got it. I think those regular duty ones are 5000#


Was just looking at them yesterday at the farm store and bought one. The light duty was 5,000# and the heavy 7,500#. I agree that tongue weight got it and it might of been overloaded before and which causes metal fatigue. I've had a lot of schooling on metal fatigue. The damage caused by it can show up later.

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Re: Ain't Supposed to Happen

Post by Bright Raven » Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:30 am

cfpinz wrote:
JMJ Farms wrote:
ohiosteve wrote: The way that hitch is milled down to recess the ball must have made the hitch a little to thin. Seems like a design flaw.


I agree. Never seen one milled down like that. Is this common practice?


Reese makes them to accommodate a ball that they also sell which has a corresponding hex shape at the base, eliminating the need to have a pipe wrench or vise to hold the ball while tightening.

Five bucks says it's stamped China.


The Reese Brand hitches and accessories I have looked at all say Made In China.
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Re: Ain't Supposed to Happen

Post by True Grit Farms » Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:59 am

It doesn't matter where it's made as long as it's made right. A solid shank with the ball welded is the best hitch. I'm not a big fan on bolting things together when it comes to hitches and balls.
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