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Napa filters getting pin holes

Postby millstreaminn » Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:47 am

Got a Ford F250 that I use to plow snow at the hotel. Last year while plowing the oil filter got a hole in it and dumped all the engine oil out. The idiot light came on so I stopped plowing. When I looked under the truck it was covered with oil so I had it towed to a garage. The garage said the filter had a hole in it so they put a new filter on and filled the oil.

Fast forward to last Sunday, the new Napa oil filter (less than 6 months old) got a pin hole in it and was spraying oil on the exhaust. Good thing I was close to home and was able to drive it back. I'm going to replace it with a non Napa filter this time. I run all Napa filters in my tractors and never had a problem like this with them.
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Postby jltrent » Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:40 am

millstreaminn wrote:Got a Ford F250 that I use to plow snow at the hotel. Last year while plowing the oil filter got a hole in it and dumped all the engine oil out. The idiot light came on so I stopped plowing. When I looked under the truck it was covered with oil so I had it towed to a garage. The garage said the filter had a hole in it so they put a new filter on and filled the oil.

Fast forward to last Sunday, the new Napa oil filter (less than 6 months old) got a pin hole in it and was spraying oil on the exhaust. Good thing I was close to home and was able to drive it back. I'm going to replace it with a non Napa filter this time. I run all Napa filters in my tractors and never had a problem like this with them.


You can get Motor-craft at Walmart which is OEM for Ford as they are not real expensive there. I recon they still carry them as it has been probably a years since I bought one there.
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Postby cfpinz » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:04 am

I use Napa filters on all of the trucks, never had a problem with them. I believe they're made by Wix, as their part numbers are usually just one number different.
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Postby skyhightree1 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:10 am

i prefer fram or Baldwin filters
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Postby jltrent » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:52 am

skyhightree1 wrote:i prefer fram or Baldwin filters


I put 330000 miles on a Honda Accord and used nothing but Fram. The person I sold it to used it on a paper route a couple years and then sold it again and it still is on the road. Baldwins have made in USA on them as I bet they are good too.
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Postby Stocker Steve » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:15 am

skyhightree1 wrote:i prefer fram or Baldwin filters


Because?
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Postby skyhightree1 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:39 am

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skyhightree1 wrote:i prefer fram or Baldwin filters


Because?


I am strange and cut filters open to look and see how much trash they capture and those seemed to keep the most contaminants in the filters.
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Re: Napa filters getting pin holes

Postby Atimm693 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:55 am

millstreaminn wrote:Got a Ford F250 that I use to plow snow at the hotel. Last year while plowing the oil filter got a hole in it and dumped all the engine oil out. The idiot light came on so I stopped plowing. When I looked under the truck it was covered with oil so I had it towed to a garage. The garage said the filter had a hole in it so they put a new filter on and filled the oil.

Fast forward to last Sunday, the new Napa oil filter (less than 6 months old) got a pin hole in it and was spraying oil on the exhaust. Good thing I was close to home and was able to drive it back. I'm going to replace it with a non Napa filter this time. I run all Napa filters in my tractors and never had a problem like this with them.


What engine?

Makes you wonder if the relief on the oil pump is stuck or something, and making the pressure too high. May not be a bad idea to check it with a gauge.

I've only ever had a Napa fuel filter leak. It was warped or something under the gasket and sprayed like a pinhole.
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Re: Napa filters getting pin holes

Postby millstreaminn » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:19 am

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millstreaminn wrote:Got a Ford F250 that I use to plow snow at the hotel. Last year while plowing the oil filter got a hole in it and dumped all the engine oil out. The idiot light came on so I stopped plowing. When I looked under the truck it was covered with oil so I had it towed to a garage. The garage said the filter had a hole in it so they put a new filter on and filled the oil.

Fast forward to last Sunday, the new Napa oil filter (less than 6 months old) got a pin hole in it and was spraying oil on the exhaust. Good thing I was close to home and was able to drive it back. I'm going to replace it with a non Napa filter this time. I run all Napa filters in my tractors and never had a problem like this with them.


What engine?

Makes you wonder if the relief on the oil pump is stuck or something, and making the pressure too high. May not be a bad idea to check it with a gauge.

I've only ever had a Napa fuel filter leak. It was warped or something under the gasket and sprayed like a pinhole.


8 cylinder gas.

The truck is a 2004 with only 21,000 miles on it. The gauge on the dash reads within range but may not be a bad idea to check.
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Re: Napa filters getting pin holes

Postby Atimm693 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:41 am

millstreaminn wrote:
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millstreaminn wrote:Got a Ford F250 that I use to plow snow at the hotel. Last year while plowing the oil filter got a hole in it and dumped all the engine oil out. The idiot light came on so I stopped plowing. When I looked under the truck it was covered with oil so I had it towed to a garage. The garage said the filter had a hole in it so they put a new filter on and filled the oil.

Fast forward to last Sunday, the new Napa oil filter (less than 6 months old) got a pin hole in it and was spraying oil on the exhaust. Good thing I was close to home and was able to drive it back. I'm going to replace it with a non Napa filter this time. I run all Napa filters in my tractors and never had a problem like this with them.


What engine?

Makes you wonder if the relief on the oil pump is stuck or something, and making the pressure too high. May not be a bad idea to check it with a gauge.

I've only ever had a Napa fuel filter leak. It was warped or something under the gasket and sprayed like a pinhole.


8 cylinder gas.

The truck is a 2004 with only 21,000 miles on it. The gauge on the dash reads within range but may not be a bad idea to check.


The dash gauge is more less just a dummy light.
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Re: Napa filters getting pin holes

Postby millstreaminn » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:14 pm

Atimm693 wrote:
millstreaminn wrote:
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What engine?

Makes you wonder if the relief on the oil pump is stuck or something, and making the pressure too high. May not be a bad idea to check it with a gauge.

I've only ever had a Napa fuel filter leak. It was warped or something under the gasket and sprayed like a pinhole.


8 cylinder gas.

The truck is a 2004 with only 21,000 miles on it. The gauge on the dash reads within range but may not be a bad idea to check.


The dash gauge is more less just a dummy light.


Yup. Kept me from driving it with no oil. :D
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Postby SmokinM » Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:58 pm

What he means is they are not a pressure gauge on those. If it has pressure it will always read the same, it doesn’t move as pressure raises and lowers.

I can buy Motorcraft OEM cheaper than anything else here. Are you sure nothing is rubbing or salt eroding it. Pretty odd that two have done the same thing.
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Postby Texasmark » Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:07 am

jltrent wrote:
millstreaminn wrote:Got a Ford F250 that I use to plow snow at the hotel. Last year while plowing the oil filter got a hole in it and dumped all the engine oil out. The idiot light came on so I stopped plowing. When I looked under the truck it was covered with oil so I had it towed to a garage. The garage said the filter had a hole in it so they put a new filter on and filled the oil.

Fast forward to last Sunday, the new Napa oil filter (less than 6 months old) got a pin hole in it and was spraying oil on the exhaust. Good thing I was close to home and was able to drive it back. I'm going to replace it with a non Napa filter this time. I run all Napa filters in my tractors and never had a problem like this with them.


You can get Motor-craft at Walmart which is OEM for Ford as they are not real expensive there. I recon they still carry them as it has been probably a years since I bought one there.


FL-1A fits a lot of Ford cars, trucks, and tractors. When I was driving Ford cars and trucks and tractors, had one filter to do the job. Today it's just 3 tractors. WW PH8A is the store brand. Ran that when 1A wasn't available and couldn't tell the difference.

Never had a problem with filters over the years except for my Generac standby generator. Seal started leaking after 2 years. I attest it to manufacturers of all types putting the filters on too tight....way tighter than the instructions on the unit. Problem for me is equipment wide regardless of type.
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Postby millstreaminn » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:06 am

SmokinM wrote:What he means is they are not a pressure gauge on those. If it has pressure it will always read the same, it doesn’t move as pressure raises and lowers.

I can buy Motorcraft OEM cheaper than anything else here. Are you sure nothing is rubbing or salt eroding it. Pretty odd that two have done the same thing.


There is not anything rubbing on it. The filter would have been put on in Feb or March of this year, so it probably saw some salt. Even though, any filter should be able to hold up for 6 months even with heavy salt. I'll take a pic when I get around to changing the filter. There is a pin hole about half way up the side of the filter. I don't know where the last filter failed at, the garage didn't say and I didn't ask.
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Postby elkwc » Wed Aug 08, 2018 4:35 pm

millstreaminn wrote:
SmokinM wrote:What he means is they are not a pressure gauge on those. If it has pressure it will always read the same, it doesn’t move as pressure raises and lowers.

I can buy Motorcraft OEM cheaper than anything else here. Are you sure nothing is rubbing or salt eroding it. Pretty odd that two have done the same thing.


There is not anything rubbing on it. The filter would have been put on in Feb or March of this year, so it probably saw some salt. Even though, any filter should be able to hold up for 6 months even with heavy salt. I'll take a pic when I get around to changing the filter. There is a pin hole about half way up the side of the filter. I don't know where the last filter failed at, the garage didn't say and I didn't ask.


I was a mechanical specialist for several years. Mainly on stationary engines. Some ran 24/7. Did lots of oil testing and trials with different oil and air filters through the years. First if it was overpressuring enough to cause a leak in the housing you should see either bulging or the gasket blown out. I've seen over pressuring before and have seen the results. I'll be interested to see your pics. Almost sounds like a manufacturing issue.
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