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Interesting ways to sell bulls

Postby WalnutCrest » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:20 pm

Some people run a traditional auction with a fast talking auctioneer.

Some run a cowboy auction.

Some do private treaty.

...then there are others that do something a bit different than any of those three approaches.

Those are the ones I'm interested in learning about. Anyone have any websites they can link me to?

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Postby wbvs58 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:38 pm

What's a cowboy auction?

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Postby WalnutCrest » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:17 pm

wbvs58 wrote:What's a cowboy auction?

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Opening price of 2500. Raise your hands if you're in at that price.

Ok...2750. Who's still in.

Now 3000.

And 3250.

3500.

4000.

Three still in.

4500.

5000.

Any one else? We've got one at 5000. Anyone?

Sold. 5000 to bidder 347.

...next up is bull number 14. A tremendous son of Light in the Shorts out of the famous cow family Bats in the Belfry. We're starting at 2500. Who's in?
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Postby TennesseeTuxedo » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:01 pm

I've sold 2 via Craigslist and haven't gotten a single call off CattleRange.com.

Not had much luck off my ad in the county newspaper or the flyer I posted at our local sale barn.
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Postby TCRanch » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:24 pm

TennesseeTuxedo wrote:I've sold 2 via Craigslist and haven't gotten a single call off CattleRange.com.

Not had much luck off my ad in the county newspaper or the flyer I posted at our local sale barn.


On Facebook there's a Kansas Farmers/Ranchers site and a lot of people sells bulls off that. I've sold some bred heifers and have great success getting rid of free barn cats/kittens. You may want to look into something like that in your area.
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Postby WalnutCrest » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:33 pm

All of that stuff is just a variation of private treaty ... anyone know if any other ways to sell several / many / bunches of bulls?

I'm working on an idea, and I'm trying to see if anyone else is doing something similar so I might learn what works and what doesn't before really rolling it out.
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Postby wbvs58 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:13 am

Have you heard of the "Helmsman auction system".

http://redpollvic.com/V/Helmsman.html

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Postby TennesseeTuxedo » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:22 am

TCRanch wrote:
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:I've sold 2 via Craigslist and haven't gotten a single call off CattleRange.com.

Not had much luck off my ad in the county newspaper or the flyer I posted at our local sale barn.


On Facebook there's a Kansas Farmers/Ranchers site and a lot of people sells bulls off that. I've sold some bred heifers and have great success getting rid of free barn cats/kittens. You may want to look into something like that in your area.


Awesome idea!
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Postby WalnutCrest » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:18 am

wbvs58 wrote:Have you heard of the "Helmsman auction system".

http://redpollvic.com/V/Helmsman.html

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That is a bit like a silent auction, with a 2 minute extension for late bids. It'd probably work well for a small group of bulls; I can't imagine trying to do a large number of bulls that way.

Have you ever purchased a bull like that? If so, what did you think?
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Postby WalnutCrest » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:34 am

Here's a different idea sent to me by one of the posters here at CT.

http://nicholsfarms.biz

Details listed in their January newsletter. It's similar to a cowboy auction.
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Postby wbvs58 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:04 pm

WalnutCrest wrote:
wbvs58 wrote:Have you heard of the "Helmsman auction system".

http://redpollvic.com/V/Helmsman.html

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That is a bit like a silent auction, with a 2 minute extension for late bids. It'd probably work well for a small group of bulls; I can't imagine trying to do a large number of bulls that way.

Have you ever purchased a bull like that? If so, what did you think?


I've only read the results in the paper. It tends to be the way a lot of people start off with their own sale so it is hard to judge the results. I think most would be about 20-30 bulls, the clearance rate varies but I would say it would be down on a regular auction but many that don't sell through the auction get sold soon afterwards.

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Postby WalnutCrest » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:17 pm

Clearance rate?
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Postby WalnutCrest » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:26 pm

Another one from another non-CT friend --- www.beefbooster.com --- apparently, a group of like-minded breeders (mainly in Canada?) breed composite bulls focusing on phenotype, not genotype. All bulls are grouped into two different classifications and all bulls in the top classification (Platinum) are priced the same and all in the second classification (Gold) are priced the same. In each group are maternal bulls, heifer bulls and terminal bulls.
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Postby zirlottkim » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:41 pm

http://cppbullsale.com/ I was at the sale Saturday. A lot of bulls didn't sell, and they were very reasonably priced. I felt bad those people that put the time and effort to raise good bulls, and didn't sell them.
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Postby WalnutCrest » Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:39 pm

zirlottkim wrote:http://cppbullsale.com/ I was at the sale Saturday. A lot of bulls didn't sell, and they were very reasonably priced. I felt bad those people that put the time and effort to raise good bulls, and didn't sell them.


Did they actually try to sell them in some sort of unique fashion (i.e., in any fashion other than a straight auction, cowboy auction or private treaty)? If so, how did they do it (I ask because it wasn't clear from what was on the site you linked to or in their catalog).
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