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What's a reasonable price to you as the buyer?

Postby WalnutCrest » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:14 pm

Criteria:

1 - Currently open, with or without a calf at its side (obviously those with a calf will cost a bit more)
2 - 3yrs to 7yrs old ... at least one good calf raised all the way to weaning per year starting with their third birthday (calve at two, wean at nearly three ... etc ...)
3 - Good feet, udder, teeth and temperament
4 - FS 4-5 and a BCS of 5-6

...what would you look to pay private treaty for a group of 5-15 commercial cows fitting that description from a trusted seller (meaning you know you're not going to get a cobbled-together group of sales barn rejects)?
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Postby dun » Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:27 am

There are 2 young kids just getting started in 4H/FFA that are buying 10 pair to get started. I'm only charging them 1800 a pair. These range from first calvers through 5th calvers.
They agreed to 2100 a pir but since they're just getting started I knocked off the 300 a pair
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Postby Son of Butch » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:16 am

dun wrote:There are 2 young kids just getting started in 4H/FFA that are buying 10 pair to get started.

They must have a dam good lemonade stand.
For them to have put that kind of money together at their age cattle are a waste of their talents.
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Postby dun » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:19 am

Son of Butch wrote:
dun wrote:There are 2 young kids just getting started in 4H/FFA that are buying 10 pair to get started.

They must have a dam good lemonade stand.
For them to have put that kind of money together at their age cattle are a waste of their talents.

They each got a FSA loan for beginners for 5k each and their dad is coughing up the rest
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Postby WalnutCrest » Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:33 am

dun wrote:There are 2 young kids just getting started in 4H/FFA that are buying 10 pair to get started. I'm only charging them 1800 a pair. These range from first calvers through 5th calvers.
They agreed to 2100 a pir but since they're just getting started I knocked off the 300 a pair


Are your girls registered? How old/big are the calves?

I'm trying to figure out the value of a group of open-but-definitely-take-them-back-to-the-farm type of mama cows.
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Postby RanchMan90 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:22 am

WalnutCrest wrote:Criteria:

1 - Currently open, with or without a calf at its side (obviously those with a calf will cost a bit more)
2 - 3yrs to 7yrs old ... at least one good calf raised all the way to weaning per year starting with their third birthday (calve at two, wean at nearly three ... etc ...)
3 - Good feet, udder, teeth and temperament
4 - FS 4-5 and a BCS of 5-6

...what would you look to pay private treaty for a group of 5-15 commercial cows fitting that description from a trusted seller (meaning you know you're not going to get a cobbled-together group of sales barn rejects)?

Et cows? $1000 per head to $1 a lb would be fair.
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Postby kenny thomas » Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:36 am

If they are open without a calf at their side they are worth slaughter price.
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Postby callmefence » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:16 am

kenny thomas wrote:If they are open without a calf at their side they are worth slaughter price.


That's right. If she ain't got a calf wth is she doing open.
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Postby WalnutCrest » Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:17 am

RanchMan90 wrote:
WalnutCrest wrote:Criteria:

1 - Currently open, with or without a calf at its side (obviously those with a calf will cost a bit more)
2 - 3yrs to 7yrs old ... at least one good calf raised all the way to weaning per year starting with their third birthday (calve at two, wean at nearly three ... etc ...)
3 - Good feet, udder, teeth and temperament
4 - FS 4-5 and a BCS of 5-6

...what would you look to pay private treaty for a group of 5-15 commercial cows fitting that description from a trusted seller (meaning you know you're not going to get a cobbled-together group of sales barn rejects)?

Et cows? $1000 per head to $1 a lb would be fair.


Yes, looking at future recips ... buying out of a fall calving herd. Breeder has a tight live cover window; his best opens (cows only, no open heifers) the next spring are available to me as recip candidates.
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Postby talltimber » Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:45 pm

How tight is tight?
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Re: What's a reasonable price to you as the buyer?

Postby Caustic Burno » Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:51 pm

callmefence wrote:
kenny thomas wrote:If they are open without a calf at their side they are worth slaughter price.


That's right. If she ain't got a calf wth is she doing open.


Open cow no matter the breeding isn't worth a dried up monkey turd to me.
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Re: What's a reasonable price to you as the buyer?

Postby callmefence » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:11 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:
callmefence wrote:
kenny thomas wrote:If they are open without a calf at their side they are worth slaughter price.


That's right. If she ain't got a calf wth is she doing open.


Open cow no matter the breeding isn't worth a dried up monkey turd to me.


I pretty much feel the same. They won't go in with my herd...but

If you gotta a bunch of good grass that's not going get used. Cant get anyone to roll it etc. And you don't wanna mess with calfs. You can make a check buying some skinny opens really cheap and putting some condition on em. Never even turn in a bull. Sell em right back through the kill pen. I personally would rather do it with breds. But sometimes poor opens can be had really cheap.
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Re: What's a reasonable price to you as the buyer?

Postby Stocker Steve » Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:53 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:Open cow no matter the breeding isn't worth a dried up monkey turd to me.


63 cents per pound
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Re: What's a reasonable price to you as the buyer?

Postby Son of Butch » Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:37 am

Stocker Steve wrote:
Caustic Burno wrote:Open cow no matter the breeding isn't worth a dried up monkey turd to me.


63 cents per pound

Nah... CB lights his cigars with Fifties.
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Re: What's a reasonable price to you as the buyer?

Postby bse » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:42 am

I wouldnt invest in a bunch of non breeders to make recipes, id want the fertile ones at the front end of calving.
I'm like everyone else, slaughter price.
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