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Re: What's a reasonable price to you as the buyer?

Postby 1982vett » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:07 am

Something I've recently run across ....it depends on WHY she's open.....infertility on her part may not have been the problem.
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Re: What's a reasonable price to you as the buyer?

Postby WalnutCrest » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:08 am

talltimber wrote:How tight is tight?


45 days

...and to everyone else, the recips I've bought like this from this seller have done a quite fine job for us.
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Re: What's a reasonable price to you as the buyer?

Postby talltimber » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:19 am

WC, how long do you keep these recip cows, I am unfamiliar with the process? Are you having good luck with them on the following breeding season, then they start falling back, or does the recip thing not as high pressure situation? All in all, I think it breaks down as to how bad you want/like them, obviously. It doesn't take much of a toe stubbing to knock one out of a 45 season. Trying to "stretch them out" a little too far on the hay/old hay/a little tougher calving/minerals, etc. can do it easy enough I think.
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Re: What's a reasonable price to you as the buyer?

Postby bse » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:52 am

If they work for ya then maybe worth a little more, for me I put to much money in embryos to buy somebody culls. Anymore I just try and find a good bunch of somebody's cows and use them and buy the calves at weaning!
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Re: What's a reasonable price to you as the buyer?

Postby Son of Butch » Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:01 pm

RanchMan90 wrote:
WalnutCrest wrote:Criteria:

1 - Currently open, with or without a calf at its side (obviously those with a calf will cost a bit more)
2 - 3yrs to 7yrs old ... at least one good calf raised all the way to weaning per year starting with their third birthday (calve at two, wean at nearly three ... etc ...)
3 - Good feet, udder, teeth and temperament
4 - FS 4-5 and a BCS of 5-6

...what would you look to pay private treaty for a group of 5-15 commercial cows fitting that description from a trusted seller (meaning you know you're not going to get a cobbled-together group of sales barn rejects)?

Et cows? $1000 per head to $1 a lb would be fair.

Last week slaughter cows here were .61 - .74
IF I wanted them 1-5 cents over top slaughter cows... .75- 80 cents max
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Re: What's a reasonable price to you as the buyer?

Postby dun » Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:54 pm

bse wrote:I wouldnt invest in a bunch of non breeders to make recipes, id want the fertile ones at the front end of calving.
I'm like everyone else, slaughter price.

Couldn;t possibly agree more. You want to most fertile, not the least. Implanting embryos is a sketchy enough process without throwing a a clanger of possible infertility.
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Re: What's a reasonable price to you as the buyer?

Postby Son of Butch » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:18 pm

dun wrote:
bse wrote:I wouldnt invest in a bunch of non breeders to make recipes, id want the fertile ones at the front end of calving.
I'm like everyone else, slaughter price.

Couldn;t possibly agree more. You want to most fertile, not the least. Implanting embryos is a sketchy enough process without throwing a a clanger of possible infertility.

That would seem common sense. But, you are asking her to carry the fertile egg of another not produce a fertile egg.

If a cow has a history of 2 or more services to conceive, but has the proven ability to conceive and carry to full term,
what would her expected success rate be compared to the average success rate?
Perhaps a reproduction expert or someone with a good amount of experience could weigh in.
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Re: What's a reasonable price to you as the buyer?

Postby Son of Butch » Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:26 pm

bse wrote:If they work for ya then maybe worth a little more, for me I put too much money in embryos to buy somebody culls.
I just try and find a good bunch of somebody's cows and use them and buy the calves at weaning!

How much of a premium do you pay to use those cows?
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Re: What's a reasonable price to you as the buyer?

Postby bse » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:21 pm

I vaccinate all the cows, pay for everything done, when the calf is ready to wean I pay steer price for all of them, with a 30 day either way guarantee. The guarantee comes because I want them around 205 days and maybe they normally sell before or after that. Works out for everyone, they have no expense in the cow and get a premium with no commission.
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Re: What's a reasonable price to you as the buyer?

Postby talltimber » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:10 pm

That actually doesn't sound too bad for someone that doesn't keep their own heifers or background their own calves, barring a need to sell some early for whatever reason.

What is the agreement concerning calf vaccination/worming/cutting?
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Re: What's a reasonable price to you as the buyer?

Postby bse » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:23 am

Everything on the calves is on me, and I want it that way, there on my program. Dont cut alot of ET calves.
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Re: What's a reasonable price to you as the buyer?

Postby Son of Butch » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:13 am

bse wrote:Everything on the calves is on me, and I want it that way, there on my program. Don't cut a lot of ET calves.

What?!?
Here I went and did ya a special favor and banded all the bulls for ya at birth... you ungrateful sxb! :oops: :)
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Re: What's a reasonable price to you as the buyer?

Postby talltimber » Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:00 am

bse wrote:Everything on the calves is on me, and I want it that way, there on my program. Dont cut alot of ET calves.


:lol2: Yeah, I suppose not.
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Re: What's a reasonable price to you as the buyer?

Postby WalnutCrest » Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:07 pm

Why not cut an ET bull calf?

If it's not up to snuff, it's not up to snuff. :shrug:

An Aubrac breeder friend of mine cut all six ET bull calves he had one year because he didn't like one thing or another about them. Those were some pricey steers, but he thought that was more important than anything else in regards to getting quality cattle in other peoples' hands. I, for one, agree with him.

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Back to the point ... in summary, it sounds like the group of responders here thinks something between $0.75 to $1.00 / lb is a reasonable range to pay, depending on the specific animal and other terms of the deal, etc.

And, so, thanks for the feedback.
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Re: What's a reasonable price to you as the buyer?

Postby talltimber » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:04 pm

I would agree as well, WC.
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