Craig Miller wrote:Cg I have an uncle that sells straight off his farm about 150 calves a year. They bring the trucks out and load them at his place and he gets paid an agreed price. That's about all I know about it. Have you looked in to that before? If he can do it here in alabama surely you can there in texas.
My daughter did it once. And I cant believe anyone would argue our choice if this is what we do...lol... How can hauling to a sale barn 5 hours away be better than loading a pot load into a truck directly out of our pens?
Jed, I believe I've explained once before. First, all our calves have been castrated vaccinated long ago,, We could keep calves 120 days, but there are a few things to factor in. You need a facility to keep that many calves we don't have. You'd need a barn, a big one, we don't have that. We usually wean in Oct to Nov....that's when fall sets in and winter is at our backdoor. Its like someone is watching with their hand on a switch when we wean, they flip that switch and it starts raining cold rain. Now, I have calves standing around in cold mud. We could build a 100,000 dollar barn to house these calves(actually would probably cost more). We could spend those 120 days caring for these animals. We'll hope we don't lose any, each one lost is $ off you gain. You few who have small herds have said you'd do this if you had a bigger operation, so, you've never done it. We do wean and keep 20 to 60 heifers a year. That's about all the work I want after weaning...
Or we can in a short time, sell these calves off our place with no loss of weight. And those 120 days we can relax, go on vacation.......lol..........hum.....You can handle all businesses in all different ways. You can make it harder or easier, you can make more money at anything. I will check into OKC a little more. I'm going to ask around and see if any of the big operations around here ship there. Just because i'm not patting the few of you on the backs is not because i'm not listening so chill....
But I do have to question why a calf at one sale barn wont gain back like at OKC.....Have all of you been to every barn to inspect how they hold the calves? If I have a barn near me feeds exactly like OKC, wouldn't it make more sense to haul there instead? And I have to question why buyers will pay more for a calf full of feed. If you know you're calf is getting fattened up, you know the buyers know it too. I'd sure dock a calf if I knew he had 10 pounds of feed in him when I could go down the road and get a calf whos a little lighter before he stuffs himself....you cant fault me for questioning that. Yall are the ones who've argued telling me I get docked for banding a calf because the buyers can tell...
Cg8 I was not just putting the info up just for you. Others can read too.
If you do get to where you can sale off the farm that is best. However I said you don't know enough yet to do that. Learn more.
I figured you cut them.
You don't need a facility to keep them in. A roof over them when they are being weaned is nice but even that isn't nesseary. I don't have anything but am going to get a cover to keep them dry. Doesn't take something huge either. Several small run ins are better. You don't want a barn to keep them in either.
I buy from October till Christmas and then on till February, you know when it's wet and cold. Uncut, unweaned, unvaccinated put togather from many herds and salebarns. Starting your own would be a cakewalk.
That extra 120 days would make a lot of money. Someone (like me) is buying those calves and making that money.
You can't sell them off your place with no weight loss. Your taking a loss every time you send them to the barn your using.If you sell potloads direct to a buyer he's going to shrink them on a sliding scale. Still will be better than you are doing now at the barns your going to.
And now your back on all us little operations. I know everyone strives to be like you.
I mean you have what 250 mamas? That's a nice herd.
If your were east of me instead of west of me I'd be interested in buying yours off your farm. (You probley scoff now, yeah right) you see you have a big time operation and it's not one of those little hobby farms or anything like that so how would a hick like me buy off your farm? Well you see if you had a 100% calf crop and they were all bull calves I could buy all of them and still need to go elsewhere to fill up for the winter.
You know what's really funny? My cattle operation really is a hobby operation, it's not what makes my living (row crop). It's what I do for enjoyment. It does need to make a profit.
Now you been in business for what 30-35 years?
Well I have too but not cattle, the mama cows left my place in 92 and another one didn't step foot on the place till 08.
Yeah, since 08 I've built a hobby using its on money, not piling money in form somewhere else to make a stocker operation that can buy all your production and then some. Isn't that funny for a hobby farm?
And see I wasn't telling you how to run your business and I don't care what you do. I could care less.
I was just telling you what's out there and how some people do it. Was also telling others. (This board isn't just about one person)
Also it's common knowlage in the cattle business that The City is a hub, always sets the price and less shrink than anywhere. Also common knowledge that the buyers there want calves full. Can't believe a professional doesn't know that.
Now once again I'm not telling you what to do and I don't care what you do. I put options out there.