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Re: Bred cow sale

Postby talltimber » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:30 am

I figured the bred cow market in KC would be similar to the feeder market in that it would be some of the highest prices in the country? Last week here:
med and lg 1, 2-6yo, 2nd and 3rd, 995-1450lbs, $1050-1375 1st stage 950-1200
7-BM, ", 1152-1495, $950-1125
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Re: Bred cow sale

Postby farmerjan » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:00 am

BrandX wrote:just got a $1300 check today for selling 2 calves. one was 330lbs @ $2/lb. the other was 400+@ $1.80
so I bought quality bred cattle for what I sold small calves for

edit: calves were bulls and not vaccinated.


That's a good bit more than what they are bringing here. Most are in the 1.30 to 1.50 for 5 wt STEERS
not bull calves. Wish we could get those prices but from here there is so much in trucking to get them to anywhere. Cull cows in the high 30's to 40's.
Had a bred cow sale a week ago, and many were in the 6-900 range. Many were older cows from what I was told. I didn't go, we are trying to readjust to moving the cattle around from the 2 lost pastures this year and just getting a handle on how to handle some of the cattle that used to go to that one place for the winter. Have a real nice group of at least 10 heifer calves that we have kept back for future breeding. After the new year we will be able to better assess what we have, what we are gonna sell; we still have 50 to preg check and the calves to wean off. Been holding them longer and had grass to keep them on. The calves will get sold early spring I think, since prices this year have dropped a little again.

Hears hoping 2018 will be a little more promising....and that we will get some precip to get the springs and water tables back up, or it will be a bad year. Might be good we are down a bit in numbers.
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Re: Bred cow sale

Postby Stocker Steve » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:06 am

farmerjan wrote:Hears hoping 2018 will be a little more promising....and that we will get some precip to get the springs and water tables back up, or it will be a bad year. Might be good we are down a bit in numbers.


There is a strong market here for breds. Some of the demand is coming from producers who are exiting dairy and/or seeding down some marginal crop ground. They tend to overpay for older cows, so about 75% of our cull cows go back to the country.
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Re: Bred cow sale

Postby farmerjan » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:20 am

Lost 3 dairy farms in the last 3 months that I tested, sold out. One was a reg breeder, 57 years in the dairy business. It was sad. He will probably be raising some holstein steers he said and he has the knowledge to grow holsteins. He's 78 yrs old. Yes, some of the dairies are converting to beef, but 90% of the cull cows here go right on the trucks to cargill etc to slaughter. We are friends with the one buyer. He sometimes will pull out a couple of cows that look very preg, but talking to a couple of the guys at the sale, they just give the truck drivers the slips, they load up and head to PA. There are plenty of bred cow sales here that a buyer can get into them fairly cheap without pulling cull cows out of the pens.
Sad thing is, so many of the farms wind up getting split up and become houses and such. we are only a few hours out of Richmond, an hour out of Charlottesville, and the population just keeps growing so more and more land is going to houses and apts and such.
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Re: Bred cow sale

Postby ddd75 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:07 pm

farmerjan wrote:Lost 3 dairy farms in the last 3 months that I tested, sold out. One was a reg breeder, 57 years in the dairy business. It was sad. He will probably be raising some holstein steers he said and he has the knowledge to grow holsteins. He's 78 yrs old. Yes, some of the dairies are converting to beef, but 90% of the cull cows here go right on the trucks to cargill etc to slaughter. We are friends with the one buyer. He sometimes will pull out a couple of cows that look very preg, but talking to a couple of the guys at the sale, they just give the truck drivers the slips, they load up and head to PA. There are plenty of bred cow sales here that a buyer can get into them fairly cheap without pulling cull cows out of the pens.
Sad thing is, so many of the farms wind up getting split up and become houses and such. we are only a few hours out of Richmond, an hour out of Charlottesville, and the population just keeps growing so more and more land is going to houses and apts and such.



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Re: Bred cow sale

Postby Stocker Steve » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:17 am

Another sale today. The boys wanted cows -- young or old. I can not pencil out a profit on most of these unless you are betting on a really high cull cow market...

Lead off second calvers were U$S 1625.
Better heifers were $1425 to $1550.
Better cows were $1225 to $1475.
Cull heifers were $950 to $1050
BM cows were $750 to $875.
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Re: Bred cow sale

Postby Till-Hill » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:28 am

LAST SALE PRICES AS OF: DECEMBER 16TH, 2017 NE Iowa
Sold: 863 Head
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Price:
FANCY BRED 1ST & 2ND CALF HEIFERS
1600.00to1925.00
YOUNG COWS & BRED HEIFERS
1300.00to1750.00
MIDDLE AGED COWS
1200.00to1650.00
SOLID MOUTH COWS
1000.00to1400.00
OLDER COWS & LATER BREDS
700.00to1100.00
COW CALF PAIRS
1100.00to1550.00
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Re: Bred cow sale

Postby Stocker Steve » Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:49 am

Sounds like MN should be exporting breds to Iowa. Usually we just ship them west.

Does your cow/calf operation pencil out at those prices? Free stalks?
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Re: Bred cow sale

Postby Till-Hill » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:07 pm

Stocker Steve wrote:Sounds like MN should be exporting breds to Iowa. Usually we just ship them west.

Does your cow/calf operation pencil out at those prices? Free stalks?

Steve I have not done my taxes yet but I feel if I had the spot to dry lot cows next summer or just at least the wintering ground I think the broken mouth cows are the best buy with this cheap feed. Broken mouths with feed should only gain weight after calving. If calves are same price as what I sold for this year. 575# steers x $1.77 1 round off shots off the cow. Cull heifers I don't remember weights or price but it was $733/head on 3 different colors of short eared, midgets, junk!

So if I could buy a broken/gummer good cow now for $1,000 bred for March/April. Feed/pasture at $.8/day for 300 days have $1240 in her, average $850/head on calves like this year and cow brings $.5/# at $1200 day of calf sale next October I think some decent money to be made. If your feeding 20 cows this winter why not feed 40? Bred heifers I think at today's price if buying the right kind will be money makers if this feeder market holds for 2-3 years yet.

Them in between cow ages I'm not sold on buying. If I could have it my way I'd buy all coming 3rd calvers. You take the chances out that someone selling you a heiferette. Should be high chance she has calved ok twice and raised it. Them are the hardest to find tho. Gummers with TMR I think and ship her if best bet. Turn cheap bull in on them in case cow market does drop and calf her again. Leave you some options.
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Re: Bred cow sale

Postby Dave » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:42 pm

Thursday I helped my friend haul fall pairs to the winter ground. He had a guy buy a couple fall pairs for him at Toppenish. We went and picked them up Friday morning. Big, young (3 year olds) black Angus cows (1,500 pounds) with 200 pound calves. He paid $1,525 a pair for them. He got over $1,000 for his fall steers this year so if the market is the same this summer that price will work.
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