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Help!! Clipped steer too short!

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:49 pm
by Alonsosteer
Hey there,

One of my students clipped our steer too short and uneven (it looks horrible- chunks of hair are missing everywhere).... what could we do to help its hair grow back?! It's a Angus x Mane Anjou cross. It was extremely hairy (thus why she decided to shave it -- to help with the FL heat) but it turned out just awful. Please help! Any supplements that y'all suggest??? Thanks

Re: Help!! Clipped steer too short!

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:34 pm
by Bright Raven
I doubt that you can accelerate hair growth despite products that say they do. The question is how long before you need to show him. The hair does come back fairly fast. When it does, find someone who is skilled. They have a lot of tricks to camouflage the flaws.

Re: Help!! Clipped steer too short!

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:14 pm
by Son of Butch
Bright Raven wrote: When it does, find someone who is skilled. They have a lot of tricks to camouflage the flaws.

Nah... give the kid another whack at it.
Any cattle judge worth their salt shouldn't let a hair cut, good or bad, influence their placings.

Re: Help!! Clipped steer too short!

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:20 pm
by Bigfoot
Not sure, but I thought your part of the country shaved instead of promoting long hair? A red solo cup of black oil sunflower seeds per feeding will promote a healthy looking coat. Not sure if it'll help your problem.

Re: Help!! Clipped steer too short!

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:48 pm
by Son of Butch
Bigfoot wrote:Not sure, but I thought your part of the country shaved instead of promoting long hair? A red solo cup of black oil sunflower seeds per feeding will promote a healthy looking coat. Not sure if it'll help your problem.

IF nothing else in that hot Florida sun an oiled up steer might start to simmer from within and smell delicious causing the judge to subconsciously move it up a place or two. :)

Re: Help!! Clipped steer too short!

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:06 pm
by DLD
This time of year, your best bet may be to just go ahead and shear him off, especially if he hasn't shed his winter coat yet. Even if you're going to show him before long, it'll probably look better smooth and short than chopped up. Shag has helped us, if you want to try a supplement, but this time of year they're naturally shedding hair, not so much growing it, so I'd just roll with it unless your target shows are going to be within the next 60-90 days, maybe even then unless he shed out early and you're already working with fresh growth.

We'll be shearing some in the next couple of weeks. I use my old big sheep heads with P2712 blades and go down - I leave from the knee down on the front legs, hock down on the back legs, the belly behind the sheath and the tail head, that way you have a little hair there to work with if you do decide to show before it grows back good.

Re: Help!! Clipped steer too short!

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:57 am
by Alonsosteer
Bright Raven wrote:I doubt that you can accelerate hair growth despite products that say they do. The question is how long before you need to show him. The hair does come back fairly fast. When it does, find someone who is skilled. They have a lot of tricks to camouflage the flaws.


The good thing is that the show isn't for quite a bit of time...next few months. The steer just looked sooo bad though that even I started to panic. Thanks for responding!

Re: Help!! Clipped steer too short!

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:59 am
by Alonsosteer
DLD wrote:This time of year, your best bet may be to just go ahead and shear him off, especially if he hasn't shed his winter coat yet. Even if you're going to show him before long, it'll probably look better smooth and short than chopped up. Shag has helped us, if you want to try a supplement, but this time of year they're naturally shedding hair, not so much growing it, so I'd just roll with it unless your target shows are going to be within the next 60-90 days, maybe even then unless he shed out early and you're already working with fresh growth.

We'll be shearing some in the next couple of weeks. I use my old big sheep heads with P2712 blades and go down - I leave from the knee down on the front legs, hock down on the back legs, the belly behind the sheath and the tail head, that way you have a little hair there to work with if you do decide to show before it grows back good.



I was reading about Shag last night.... we may try that. This might sound a little crazy but do you think rubbing some coconut oil into his skin would help his coat/skin at all??

Re: Help!! Clipped steer too short!

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:57 am
by Bright Raven
Alonsosteer wrote:
DLD wrote:This time of year, your best bet may be to just go ahead and shear him off, especially if he hasn't shed his winter coat yet. Even if you're going to show him before long, it'll probably look better smooth and short than chopped up. Shag has helped us, if you want to try a supplement, but this time of year they're naturally shedding hair, not so much growing it, so I'd just roll with it unless your target shows are going to be within the next 60-90 days, maybe even then unless he shed out early and you're already working with fresh growth.

We'll be shearing some in the next couple of weeks. I use my old big sheep heads with P2712 blades and go down - I leave from the knee down on the front legs, hock down on the back legs, the belly behind the sheath and the tail head, that way you have a little hair there to work with if you do decide to show before it grows back good.



I was reading about Shag last night.... we may try that. This might sound a little crazy but do you think rubbing some coconut oil into his skin would help his coat/skin at all??


You addressed that to DLD, but I would just provide good nutrition and minerals. Treat for parasites. Some say parasite infestations affect the coat. Also control flies.

Re: Help!! Clipped steer too short!

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:38 am
by TexasBred
Alonsosteer wrote:Hey there,

One of my students clipped our steer too short and uneven (it looks horrible- chunks of hair are missing everywhere).... what could we do to help its hair grow back?! It's a Angus x Mane Anjou cross. It was extremely hairy (thus why she decided to shave it -- to help with the FL heat) but it turned out just awful. Please help! Any supplements that y'all suggest??? Thanks

Was once told that the only difference in a good haircut and a bad haircut was about 10 days. :nod:

Re: Help!! Clipped steer too short!

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:46 am
by Nesikep
I"d work on evening the bad parts out... what grows back grows back, and will at least be uniform to deal with.

Re: Help!! Clipped steer too short!

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:10 am
by DLD
Alonsosteer wrote:
DLD wrote:This time of year, your best bet may be to just go ahead and shear him off, especially if he hasn't shed his winter coat yet. Even if you're going to show him before long, it'll probably look better smooth and short than chopped up. Shag has helped us, if you want to try a supplement, but this time of year they're naturally shedding hair, not so much growing it, so I'd just roll with it unless your target shows are going to be within the next 60-90 days, maybe even then unless he shed out early and you're already working with fresh growth.

We'll be shearing some in the next couple of weeks. I use my old big sheep heads with P2712 blades and go down - I leave from the knee down on the front legs, hock down on the back legs, the belly behind the sheath and the tail head, that way you have a little hair there to work with if you do decide to show before it grows back good.



I was reading about Shag last night.... we may try that. This might sound a little crazy but do you think rubbing some coconut oil into his skin would help his coat/skin at all??


I don't think a little bit would hurt anything, and I'm sure it would condition the hair and skin, but you have to be careful - too much oil of any kind weighs down hair and clogs pores, which will end up doing more harm than good. From now til about September the only daily products we'll use on hair is a little bit of sheen (usually mixed 50/50 with white vinegar). All of our shows 'til then are blow and show, where we'll use a light coat of revive - that's about it. And even with those products, we rinse at least daily. We don't wash unless they just need it, or to clip or show - then we may use a conditioner, but be sure and rinse it out. Shade, fans, rinsing and brushing is what we count on to grow hair - it's worked for us for a long time.

There are some spray on products available now that claim to aid in hair growth - both Weaver and Sullivan have products, and there are others available too. They're not cheap, and they require daily use with lots of rinsing, brushing and blowing. Personally, I suspect the routine has as much to do with results as the product, but that's not to say that we might not give it a try - every little bit helps.

Re: Help!! Clipped steer too short!

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:06 am
by mhouse7
Lots of water, and shade. Shade is the number one thing to get cattle to grow hair, keeping them wet in the shade is even better. Maybe some melatonin, and a fan and a rice root brush definitely wouldn't hurt either. Conditioners will make better hair, but wont make it grow faster.

So pretty much what DLD said above, he hit the nail right on the head.

Re: Help!! Clipped steer too short!

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:49 pm
by Fire Sweep Ranch
Bright Raven wrote:I doubt that you can accelerate hair growth despite products that say they do. The question is how long before you need to show him. The hair does come back fairly fast. When it does, find someone who is skilled. They have a lot of tricks to camouflage the flaws.

Says he who clips his cattle to look like a lawn mower with dull blades ran over them!!!! :lol2: :nod: sorry, could not help it.....had to jab you just a little...

Re: Help!! Clipped steer too short!

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:02 pm
by Bright Raven
Fire Sweep Ranch wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:I doubt that you can accelerate hair growth despite products that say they do. The question is how long before you need to show him. The hair does come back fairly fast. When it does, find someone who is skilled. They have a lot of tricks to camouflage the flaws.

Says he who clips his cattle to look like a lawn mower with dull blades ran over them!!!! :lol2: :nod: sorry, could not help it.....had to jab you just a little...


Ha ha. :D