2015 4-H Steer

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Re: 2015 4-H Steer

Postby I luv herfrds » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:33 pm

Hot as Hades! Coolest we have been lately; below 100.

He has been getting rinsed twice a day. Daughter makes sure the water is cold before she starts spraying him. Makes sure the empty lick tub she is using has water in it also.

Have 6 bags of finisher on order, just waiting for it to come in.
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Re: 2015 4-H Steer

Postby I luv herfrds » Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:38 am

Picked up the finisher yesterday. Started adding a small amount into his current feed to get him used to it. Then going to start weaning him off the 3 way and just have him on the finisher and power fuel alone.
He sure jumped into eating it last night.
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Re: 2015 4-H Steer

Postby Chris H » Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:50 pm

What is his weight now and how many pounds of feed is he eating a day?
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Re: 2015 4-H Steer

Postby I luv herfrds » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:51 pm

Wish I knew his weight Chris. Going to meet our friends on Sunday and see if we can use the scales at the fair grounds. Need to call the brand inspector; he has the keys.

Daughter took our calf scale up there and he is getting 30#'s a day in feed. He was leaving a little bit while it was so hot but now that it has cooled off he is licking his feed bunk clean. Told her to bump it up a bit while it is so cool but to be ready for him to start leaving more once it heats up again.
Still has free choice grass hay.
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Re: 2015 4-H Steer

Postby I luv herfrds » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:00 am

Went to my friends house to help their son with his steer and what I was told made my blood boil!!!!

Turns out that when their son was deciding on doing market beef last fall only 2 4-H kids would talk to him about it. My daughter and another young lady.
They have one neighbor girl who has come over and told him his steer looks terrible and that he shouldn't show him. That steer is almost finished and looks awesome!!! This girl is in horse and NOT beef. :mad:
They have asked members of their club for information and help on this steer but no one has helped them except us. I have been passing along the same info that I have been given here to them.
VCC they are picking up a rice brush to work with his hair. Washed the steer yesterday and since they have no power at their new house we just took turns brushing him dry with the rice brush.

They had other breeders tell them last fall to come to them and they would sell him a steer. But when they contacted the breeders they were told that they had to feed them a certain way and only that way. These people do not have a lot of money!
So when we offered their son our deal he took it.

It was great watching my daughter show this young man where to clip the steer and why. Since we spent the day at their place instead of the fair grounds we did not weigh the steer. Much better to be surrounded by trees and cool then roasting at a barren fair grounds with no shade!
Guessing the steer was over 1100. Needs a little filling out behind his shoulder but he looks awesome!
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Re: 2015 4-H Steer

Postby VCC » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:51 am

Never quite understood how people can be so petty. We would help every kid in our club, if they beat you because of it, then your advice or direction must have been solid. As long as a kid was willing to listen and follow through on the advice, it made me feel good about helping them.
There was a family in our club who would win or at least make the final drive every year, is if you asked them for advice they would readily give it, did not matter to them, most kids would not put in the time they did with their animals, the kids who took the advice to heart would see the results at the fair, the ones that did not did not do as well.

It is for the kids and about the kids, winning should come second. Helping a kid learn and raise an animal that they are proud of, is reward enough. You are helping and he is learning and enjoying his project, well done.
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Re: 2015 4-H Steer

Postby I luv herfrds » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:51 pm

This young man wanted to pay my daughter for helping him but we both refused. Told him we were glad to do it and she told him she had fun showing him and enjoyed visiting with him.

He was having trouble leading his steer. So we watched him and daughter saw what was wrong right away. He was trying to have the steer start walking before he even moved. So she showed him how to do it. He was getting the hang of it. Told him to just keep practicing and he will do fine.

Had a chat with my daughter and she was not happy with no one helping him. She was asking why. Told her if I had an answer I would tell her. Loved her response. "We are here to learn about raising animals not trying to win trophies."
Told her the place to win is the rail.
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Re: 2015 4-H Steer

Postby I luv herfrds » Wed Jul 29, 2015 11:26 am

Steer is looking great! Only spot on him not filling out is behind his shoulders but other then there he is doing well.
Weight in is August 12th.

He was leaving some feed behind for awhile then he got to licking his bunk clean. He was getting 15# twice a day bumped him up though. He is getting around 35# for the whole day. Still eating everything even with a bunk full of grass hay.
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Re: 2015 4-H Steer

Postby I luv herfrds » Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:02 am

Leaving on Wednesday for the fair. Going to be a long week!
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Re: 2015 4-H Steer

Postby VCC » Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:07 am

Good luck to your daughter.
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Re: 2015 4-H Steer

Postby Workinonit Farm » Sat Aug 15, 2015 4:30 pm

Let us know how it goes. Post pictures.
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Re: 2015 4-H Steer

Postby I luv herfrds » Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:44 pm

Fair is done. Sinister weight was 1125 so not too bad. Judge said he could have weighed more and he would been great and in the call back round. He was a head of a couple other steers and the steer we sold to our friends son beat him in market! :clap:
Daughter had fun even though he did knock her down after the show. She was leading him into the barn and he got happy and she hit the ground and had the wind knocked out of her and scratched up her arm.
Bred heifer was disqualified due to not being 100percent sure she was bred by ultrasound. But she was put in the beef breeding class. Judge really liked her frame and everything but like we all know they like them fat. She had only been out of the pasture for a week.
It all went well even though had one person try to start some crap about my daughter but it got nipped in the butt by the beef barn head and a few others. It was the guy who is always a jerk. I was asked to stay away from him because they knew it would get ugly. Too bad I was so ready to tell him wha I really think of him.
Was so hot on Wednesday had to run home and get our livestock fan for the heifers then realized we didn't have a stand for it. One of my co-workers had to go to town and picked one up. A couple of girls had their pig whips broken so she picked those up too.
I will try to post some pictures either tonight or tomorrow. I am at the coffee shop on my lunch break.
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Re: 2015 4-H Steer

Postby Workinonit Farm » Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:03 pm

Sounds like it was a busy time at the fair! I bet your daughter and her animals do even better next year. Sounds like this year was a good opportunity for learning and having a good time while doing it. :)

I bet it felt nice, being the "breeder" of the steer that placed well.

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Re: 2015 4-H Steer

Postby VCC » Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:56 pm

Sounds like things went well, doing better each year, don’t let bad people ruin for you, how did she do in showmanship?
Not sure what your plans are for future as far as a beef project but if your daughter plans to continue showing a beef project you might think about selecting a few of your stouter cleaner necked cows and breed them to a Hereford with a little more show in them. There are several listed on Top Sires and SEK Genetics that would still give you a pure bred Hereford but add a little show to the calves.
Not implying that there is anything wrong with your calves, just that extra little showiness might help move her up in the class.
There are several crossbred bulls that have the look of Hereford and throw show type calves but most also have TH so not worth it if you get heifers.
If you bred a handful of cows, you could keep one and sell a few to the other local kids.
For an August fair you need calves born March early April, you want to get them heavy early before the summer heat hits because they really seem slowdown in the heat. By July first calf should be close to 1200 pounds so they hit the fair at around 1300-1350, that’s the problem with fair calves you are not shooting for just a finished calf you’re shooting for a finished calf at a certain date.

Glad to hear both claves did well, it is always a good feeling when your cattle do well.
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Re: 2015 4-H Steer

Postby I luv herfrds » Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:15 pm

Still learning VCC. She is more interested in the product breeding rather then the showiness of an animal.

Last place in showmanship. I wish she would smile more and look at the Judge, but I cannot tell her that enough to where she will listen to me!
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