What is Normal Forage

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Re: What is Normal Forage

Postby kenny thomas » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:15 pm

An old retired forage specialist told me years ago that 7 different types of forage in the mix was good. Some of that may not produce as good as others and he suggested to promote what done best naturally instead of trying to change to the next big thing.
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Postby kenny thomas » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:17 pm

Oh and mine don't like Bermuda either.
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Re: What is Normal Forage

Postby greybeard » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:40 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:Bahia is king in East Texas common Bermuda is queen here. Few try to keep Coastal in hay fields which is very costly.
I am the only one I know that has verified improved crab grass by county agent in the county.
Through the years I have planted African Star,Coastal, Cheyenne ,common Bermuda, Paraguay, Argentine,and Pensacola Bahia looking for better forage. Crab grass has been the most successful on this journey

What, you missed out on the Alicia craze?

I thought I'd found a way to save $$ on hay one winter, when I had bought fertilized Jiggs. They didn't start into it good until the last dried up morsel of Bahia was gone.

I have one momma that loves to stretch that neck out and up and munch on American Holley leaves. I can't stand to watch her do it.
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Re: What is Normal Forage

Postby Caustic Burno » Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:28 pm

greybeard wrote:
Caustic Burno wrote:Bahia is king in East Texas common Bermuda is queen here. Few try to keep Coastal in hay fields which is very costly.
I am the only one I know that has verified improved crab grass by county agent in the county.
Through the years I have planted African Star,Coastal, Cheyenne ,common Bermuda, Paraguay, Argentine,and Pensacola Bahia looking for better forage. Crab grass has been the most successful on this journey

What, you missed out on the Alicia craze?

I thought I'd found a way to save $$ on hay one winter, when I had bought fertilized Jiggs. They didn't start into it good until the last dried up morsel of Bahia was gone.

I have one momma that loves to stretch that neck out and up and munch on American Holley leaves. I can't stand to watch her do it.



Mine love tree leaves.
Never paid much attention to kind they like. In the spring they look like giraffes going after the new leaves.
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Postby M-5 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:29 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:
greybeard wrote:
Caustic Burno wrote:Bahia is king in East Texas common Bermuda is queen here. Few try to keep Coastal in hay fields which is very costly.
I am the only one I know that has verified improved crab grass by county agent in the county.
Through the years I have planted African Star,Coastal, Cheyenne ,common Bermuda, Paraguay, Argentine,and Pensacola Bahia looking for better forage. Crab grass has been the most successful on this journey

What, you missed out on the Alicia craze?

I thought I'd found a way to save $$ on hay one winter, when I had bought fertilized Jiggs. They didn't start into it good until the last dried up morsel of Bahia was gone.

I have one momma that loves to stretch that neck out and up and munch on American Holley leaves. I can't stand to watch her do it.



Mine love tree leaves.
Never paid much attention to kind they like. In the spring they look like giraffes going after the new leaves.


Sweet gum, pecan , oak are all favorites in the spring when they are young and tender
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Re: What is Normal Forage

Postby Allenw » Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:51 pm

For those of you saying your cattle won't eat bermuda, how big is it when you put them on it? Mine will eat common bermuda in the creek bottoms all season long, but don't show much interest in the improved varieties growing in water ways in the fields when turned out after wheat harvest if they have other choices. I've also noticed cattle will eat the top 2 inches off after a frost and keep doing that until they've ate it down to half or so.
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Re: What is Normal Forage

Postby kenny thomas » Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:53 pm

Mine is in rotational grazed pastures so usually 4-6" before they get to it.
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Re: What is Normal Forage

Postby ddd75 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:08 am

i put my cattle on anything and everything. I just threw them into a brush woods last week.

They go for the grape vine first thing..
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Re: What is Normal Forage

Postby Jogeephus » Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:11 pm

ddd75 wrote:i put my cattle on anything and everything. I just threw them into a brush woods last week.

They go for the grape vine first thing..


If you keep up that nonsense you are apt to make money with cattle and we can't have that. Need to buy you some of those fancy 50 lb bags that will make your cattle grow up to 10% faster before its to late. ;-)

BTW - have you ever run a forage test on a young grape leaf? If you haven't, you might want to be careful else you could easily founder a horse.
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Postby talltimber » Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:37 am

I dont' have Bermuda pastures, but had bought a few squares a couple years ago to feed to what I was holding in the barn for whatever reason. Had an old cow wouldn't touch it hardly. I had to spray it with pancake syrup to get her to eat it. This was a bale from a farm nearby, sprayed, fert. the whole bit. Back when, the horses would eat it as fast as you could give it to them. And I had a bull up for a while, he really liked it.
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Re: What is Normal Forage

Postby slick4591 » Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:13 pm

Mine are another group that holds off until a last resort to eat the Bermuda. Every paddock has it and they are exposed to it all growing season, and it's the last to turn dormant. I am looking to maybe plant Bahia come spring as iI have a ton of what we call needle grass that they love. I have no idea what the real name might be.
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Re: What is Normal Forage

Postby Turkeybird » Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:07 pm

My cattle seem to prefer blackberry and kudzu
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Re: What is Normal Forage

Postby kenny thomas » Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:14 pm

Turkeybird wrote:My cattle seem to prefer blackberry and kudzu

Wish mine would eat blackberry.
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Re: What is Normal Forage

Postby HDRider » Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:15 pm

Ol' 243 wrote:Won't eat bermuda ??? Are you serious ?? Mine love it.

Last on my cows' menu too. They love crabgrass, Johnson grass (they will eat it down and kill it) and kudzoo, but the kudzoo is out of reach now.

I am in process of getting the broomsedge under control. They will eat that as it comes back. Some of it is coming back from grazing, some from mowing.
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Re: What is Normal Forage

Postby 1982vett » Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:14 pm

talltimber wrote:I dont' have Bermuda pastures, but had bought a few squares a couple years ago to feed to what I was holding in the barn for whatever reason. Had an old cow wouldn't touch it hardly. I had to spray it with pancake syrup to get her to eat it. This was a bale from a farm nearby, sprayed, fert. the whole bit. Back when, the horses would eat it as fast as you could give it to them. And I had a bull up for a while, he really liked it.

I've had cows like that too....break into the barn and crawl over the coastal to get to prairie hay and haygrazer. I was out late this afternoon watching the cows graze. They didn't seem to be to picky about what they were going after.
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