Best deal on Hay Saving Rings/Feeders

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Re: Best deal on Hay Saving Rings/Feeders

Postby ddd75 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:52 pm

chevytaHOE5674 wrote:
slick4591 wrote:The Hay Manager is the one I'm wanting but it's just not in the budget right now. Think they are running better than a grand.


I have 3 of them and can't say enough good about them. Waste very little hay and are heavy built so the cows/tractor don't tear them up.

As for people balking at the cost yes they are expensive, but at least with the hay managers I have they are heavy built and easily last 5x as long as the "heavy duty" rings from the local farm store. So between the increased lifespan, and saved hay for me they are worth it. Yeah I could "go buy lots of extra hay" and skip the good feeder, or I could buy the feeder and feed out more cows on the same amount of hay I already have, thus making me more money.




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Re: Best deal on Hay Saving Rings/Feeders

Postby BFE » Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:50 am

Air gator wrote:Thanks BFE,
The GoBobs are impressive but I don't think my tractor will lift a bale that high. Also wondering if you lose hay around the bottom on that one because it doesn't look like it has a skirt.

Not much loss there. They are skirted on the sides and the pipes are closer together on the ends. The only time I see much loss is when there is bad hay they pull out and don't eat. Of course, they take some good with the bad out, but with good fresh bales, there's not much waste. Much less than an old round ring.
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Re: Best deal on Hay Saving Rings/Feeders

Postby chevytaHOE5674 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:54 am

ddd75 wrote:lol.


I keep fairly accurate records of my hay consumption and can tell you that it cut my yearly hay consumption down by 15%. On a typical year I used to feed ~400 bales in your standard bale ring. Those rings would typically last 3-5 years with our climate and use, and they cost around 300 bucks a pop or ~60-100 bucks a year.

Switched feeders and now feed ~340 bales in the expensive feeders for the same number of animals. If I was to buy 60 bales of hay at $30 bucks a bale that's 1800 a year in saved hay. Feeders were 900 a piece so on year one the first two were paid for, halfway through year 2 the 3rd was paid for.

So since I make my own hay I can either sell those 60 bales or buy some extra cows to eat them. On top of that I am on year 5 with the first hay manager feeder and it shows zero wear and I should easily get 5+ more years out of it. So if I get at least 10 years of life at 900 purchase that's 90 a year of use. And honestly I think more than 10 years shouldn't be a problem.

Forgot to say I'm not a salesman for them just sharing my personal experience take it for whats it worth. I was very skeptical but being a man of numbers once I saw the data I was sold.
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Re: Best deal on Hay Saving Rings/Feeders

Postby Brute 23 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:26 pm

chevytaHOE5674 wrote:
ddd75 wrote:lol.


I keep fairly accurate records of my hay consumption and can tell you that it cut my yearly hay consumption down by 15%. On a typical year I used to feed ~400 bales in your standard bale ring. Those rings would typically last 3-5 years with our climate and use, and they cost around 300 bucks a pop or ~60-100 bucks a year.

Switched feeders and now feed ~340 bales in the expensive feeders for the same number of animals. If I was to buy 60 bales of hay at $30 bucks a bale that's 1800 a year in saved hay. Feeders were 900 a piece so on year one the first two were paid for, halfway through year 2 the 3rd was paid for.

So since I make my own hay I can either sell those 60 bales or buy some extra cows to eat them. On top of that I am on year 5 with the first hay manager feeder and it shows zero wear and I should easily get 5+ more years out of it. So if I get at least 10 years of life at 900 purchase that's 90 a year of use. And honestly I think more than 10 years shouldn't be a problem.

Forgot to say I'm not a salesman for them just sharing my personal experience take it for whats it worth. I was very skeptical but being a man of numbers once I saw the data I was sold.


The numbers work with your volume of hay. It saves you $2-3K. That's understandable.

Do you store your hay inside? I think that has more to do with it than the bale feeder.

If I feed fresh cut hay in my cheapo ring they will clean it out. Most of the hay left in my rings was lost during storage outside and had nothing to do with the bale feeder.
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Re: Best deal on Hay Saving Rings/Feeders

Postby chevytaHOE5674 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:46 pm

My hay is all stored under tarps outside stacked on rock. Only loss is a little bit on the bottoms. Was stored this way with both types of feeders. I never had trouble with them leaving hay in the feeder it was pulling tons outside the ring then standing/pooping on it.

The savings would only grow the more hay I used....
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Re: Best deal on Hay Saving Rings/Feeders

Postby ddd75 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:14 pm

sounds pretty good with how long they are lasting.
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Re: Best deal on Hay Saving Rings/Feeders

Postby rnh2 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:27 pm

What kind of tarp? Seems the cheap blue ones rip easily
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Re: Best deal on Hay Saving Rings/Feeders

Postby chevytaHOE5674 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:53 pm

I have tarps from Missouri hay tarp as well as inland hay tarp. The ones from inland are nicer but for the price the Missouri have help up real well.
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Re: Best deal on Hay Saving Rings/Feeders

Postby ddd75 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:11 pm

chevytaHOE5674 wrote:I have tarps from Missouri hay tarp as well as inland hay tarp. The ones from inland are nicer but for the price the Missouri have help up real well.

how long do these tarps hold up.

looks like to hold around 90 bales of 4x5's it'd be about 530 for tarp and stakes.
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Re: Best deal on Hay Saving Rings/Feeders

Postby TennesseeTuxedo » Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:39 pm

chevytaHOE5674 wrote:
ddd75 wrote:lol.


I keep fairly accurate records of my hay consumption and can tell you that it cut my yearly hay consumption down by 15%. On a typical year I used to feed ~400 bales in your standard bale ring. Those rings would typically last 3-5 years with our climate and use, and they cost around 300 bucks a pop or ~60-100 bucks a year.

Switched feeders and now feed ~340 bales in the expensive feeders for the same number of animals. If I was to buy 60 bales of hay at $30 bucks a bale that's 1800 a year in saved hay. Feeders were 900 a piece so on year one the first two were paid for, halfway through year 2 the 3rd was paid for.

So since I make my own hay I can either sell those 60 bales or buy some extra cows to eat them. On top of that I am on year 5 with the first hay manager feeder and it shows zero wear and I should easily get 5+ more years out of it. So if I get at least 10 years of life at 900 purchase that's 90 a year of use. And honestly I think more than 10 years shouldn't be a problem.

Forgot to say I'm not a salesman for them just sharing my personal experience take it for whats it worth. I was very skeptical but being a man of numbers once I saw the data I was sold.


Very well thought out.
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Re: Best deal on Hay Saving Rings/Feeders

Postby Tbrake » Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:11 pm

I too think they are a good investment. I bought a couple a few years back, now I make my own “improved” version. I can make a single one for around 325$ and a double for about 500$. Kind of a pain to make, but for the cost savings I can handle it. They are very heavy duty, I don’t like having to baby things. Only time I don’t like them is when it’s muddy. Hard to get a bale dropped in with deweze beds. On pastures that I use these feeders I can tell at the end of the year when I push up piles there is a lot less waste.
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Re: Best deal on Hay Saving Rings/Feeders

Postby chevytaHOE5674 » Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:31 pm

ddd75 wrote:
chevytaHOE5674 wrote:I have tarps from Missouri hay tarp as well as inland hay tarp. The ones from inland are nicer but for the price the Missouri have help up real well.

how long do these tarps hold up.

looks like to hold around 90 bales of 4x5's it'd be about 530 for tarp and stakes.


My oldest tarp right now is I think 5 years old and should get one more year out of it. Our winter is really hard on tarps, usually there is tons of snow on top of them and when its -30*F out and you start knocking the snow off and trying to roll them up they tend to crack and crunch a lot.
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Re: Best deal on Hay Saving Rings/Feeders

Postby ClinchValley » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:43 am

What do you all do with your feeders during grazing season? Had a guy tell me set them atop our rock piles to keep dry. I thought that was solid advice. Easier than putting them in the barn. Got a cheap ring that's 3 years old, holding up very well.
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Re: Best deal on Hay Saving Rings/Feeders

Postby Tbrake » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:28 am

I always just flip mine upside down. Right or wrong seems to help them last longer
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Re: Best deal on Hay Saving Rings/Feeders

Postby TennesseeTuxedo » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:33 am

We flip them, put some in old tobacco barns, and if we had rock piles I'd do that too.
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