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Re: johnsongrass hay

Postby Dogs and Cows » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:41 am

callmefence wrote:Seed is readily available in most states.
We plan to plant one of our hybrid Sudan fields in Johnson grass. With proper management it should be a one time deal instead of having to replant every year. It can also be double cropped with oats as well. Just like crabgrass.
Johnson grass is the most palatable grass for cattle that grows out of the earth. As far as prussic acid it can form in any grass. .


Hey fence, I am thinking about doing the same thing with johnsongrass. It should have the same "prusic acid" issues as sudex...but it comes back every year. How many on here graze johnsongrass? Lastly, fence, where do you plan on getting your seed if I may ask? Thanks!

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Re: johnsongrass hay

Postby callmefence » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:13 pm

Dogs and Cows wrote:
callmefence wrote:Seed is readily available in most states.
We plan to plant one of our hybrid Sudan fields in Johnson grass. With proper management it should be a one time deal instead of having to replant every year. It can also be double cropped with oats as well. Just like crabgrass.
Johnson grass is the most palatable grass for cattle that grows out of the earth. As far as prussic acid it can form in any grass. .


Hey fence, I am thinking about doing the same thing with johnsongrass. It should have the same "prusic acid" issues as sudex...but it comes back every year. How many on here graze johnsongrass? Lastly, fence, where do you plan on getting your seed if I may ask? Thanks!

Tim


You'll find it in summer list in the misc. Column.

https://www.turnerseed.com/prices.html


It's listed as a noxious weed in some states.. :roll: if you're in one you'll have to get creative. You can hand pull a lot in a hurry in a thick stand and the seeds are mature. Sorghum almum is another option. Like crabgrass if you let it make seed in the fall it will be back come spring. Even if you plant oats or wheat over it.
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Re: johnsongrass hay

Postby jedstivers » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:51 pm

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ClinchValley wrote:If it were cut at the right time, i would buy it no problem.


Your a minority. I cant even mention it because people act like I'm trying to screw them. Then if I say I have Klein, coastal, Tifton they grill me if the jg is in them too. It's not worth even bringing up. They will pay way more for Tifton or klein.... oh well :lol2: ... you can't make them drink

Then that means the don't know shyt about hay and probably cattle feed in general.
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Re: johnsongrass hay

Postby Dogs and Cows » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:52 am

I found a guy in Texas who will sell JG seed at 1.90/lb. I think I am gonna give it a whirl on a couple acres and see what I can accomplish.
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Re: johnsongrass hay

Postby wacocowboy » Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:55 am

I have patches of JG but it doesn’t come up every year like sometimes it lays dormant. Two years ago had a thick stand in one field since then nothing. Anybody else have this happen?
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Re: johnsongrass hay

Postby Texasmark » Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:20 am

Brute 23 wrote:Only thing I fault JG for is it has no resale value. I like to be able to sell hay if need be.


No problem selling it around here as long as you aren't selling to a horse lover buying what they (personally) would eat.

Funny, I was talking hay with a new neighbor the other day, came in with 3 horses. He was ranting on about JG in hay and getting pristine horse hay (for a song as usual). I pointed out that I used to lease the field where his horses are stabled currently and it's full of it. Continuing, they've been eating it since they arrived..........all was quiet!
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Re: johnsongrass hay

Postby ClinchValley » Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:31 am

Texasmark wrote:
Brute 23 wrote:Only thing I fault JG for is it has no resale value. I like to be able to sell hay if need be.


No problem selling it around here as long as you aren't selling to a horse lover buying what they (personally) would eat.

Funny, I was talking hay with a new neighbor the other day, came in with 3 horses. He was ranting on about JG in hay and getting pristine horse hay (for a song as usual). I pointed out that I used to lease the field where his horses are stabled currently and it's full of it. Continuing, they've been eating it since they arrived..........all was quiet!


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Re: johnsongrass hay

Postby jltrent » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:06 am

If it wasn't for JG some people wouldn't have a fall hay crop.
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Re: johnsongrass hay

Postby Dogs and Cows » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:41 am

jltrent wrote:If it wasn't for JG some people wouldn't have a fall hay crop.


JL, do you bale JG hay? Also, do you graze any? You are nearer my area...just curious.

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