Summer annual hay crop

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Re: Summer annual hay crop

Postby machslammer » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:57 pm

I tried millet and a new form of Sudan grass last year with Minimal success at all. . Every year prior to that we did greengrazer 5. It did really well! But what we figured out as we cut with a disc mower is the 6 to 8 inch height didn't matter, it grew as much cutting it 3 in as 8.. the other thing was do not tedder it cause you will only have stems left. We would let it lay as cut for 3 to 4 days and then rake on 4th day. Let it lay that day and bale the next. . Pretty dry that way. . Even had some rained on the 3rd day or so and it just discolored it but was fine. . Our baler hates wet stuff and it goes through with finer stems than johnson grass. .. . Had some mold first year when we got it up and threw it down a fence line for waste and our cows went and cleaned it up before they touched the good rolled fescue. . In our area the green grazer 5 better than anything else use and that's planting into exsisting thick fescue
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Re: Summer annual hay crop

Postby kentuckyguy » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:19 pm

Where are you getting your green grazer 5 seed? I can’t find it online anywhere.
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Re: Summer annual hay crop

Postby machslammer » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:58 pm

Got ours at the co op
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Re: Summer annual hay crop

Postby machslammer » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:58 pm

usually listed as green grazer v
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Re: Summer annual hay crop

Postby Stocker Steve » Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:52 pm

machslammer wrote:In our area the green grazer 5 better than anything else use and that's planting into exsisting thick fescue


You no till drill it into sprayed out sod?
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Re: Summer annual hay crop

Postby machslammer » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:27 pm

Steve no we no tilled it into short thick fescue and og right after may cutting.. it Comes on and out grows the fescue and will be ready to cut in 45 to 60 days and then 30 days after x 2 cuttings.. year before last we cut it first of July, first of August, and then middle of Sept with the og and fescue. . Think overall it made close to 250, 750# rolls, on 18 acres.
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Re: Summer annual hay crop

Postby Stocker Steve » Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:05 pm

machslammer wrote:Steve no we no tilled it into short thick fescue and og right after may cutting.. it Comes on and out grows the fescue and will be ready to cut in 45 to 60 days and then 30 days after x 2 cuttings.. year before last we cut it first of July, first of August, and then middle of Sept with the og and fescue. . Think overall it made close to 250, 750# rolls, on 18 acres.


So the fescue comes back the following spring?
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Re: Summer annual hay crop

Postby ClinchValley » Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:16 am

Stocker Steve wrote:
machslammer wrote:Steve no we no tilled it into short thick fescue and og right after may cutting.. it Comes on and out grows the fescue and will be ready to cut in 45 to 60 days and then 30 days after x 2 cuttings.. year before last we cut it first of July, first of August, and then middle of Sept with the og and fescue. . Think overall it made close to 250, 750# rolls, on 18 acres.


So the fescue comes back the following spring?


I'm curious as well. Might try this method.

Sounds like the cool season stuff came back for Fall? I'm curious how much thinning of the fescue/orchard stand occurred if any?

Where we have Johnson grass come up after first cut, it seems to thin the cool season stand a bit. Might be letting it get too tall though.
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Re: Summer annual hay crop

Postby Ebenezer » Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:39 pm

White sugarcane aphid has made millets to have more care needs than prior to the arrival of the pest. Some damage to johnsongrass and such, too. Too bad.
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Re: Summer annual hay crop

Postby machslammer » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:26 pm

Stocker and clinch yes the fescue remains there and you will get some fescue and og in each roll as well and it won't shade it out. . Now, if you kill the ground and plant the grazer on bare ground you will get a stronger stand, but it seems to out compete and do well here just no tilling it in. . We drill at 30 to 50# an acre depending on how froggy we are when we buy.
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