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Crabgrass for hay?

Postby tom4018 » Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:11 pm

Anyone use crabgrass for hay? If so how late can it be planted?
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Postby Caustic Burno » Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:21 pm

tom4018 wrote:Anyone use crabgrass for hay? If so how late can it be planted?


Yes as it is taking over several of my fields. It’s the Red River variety, I mixed mine with rye grass in the fall.
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Re: Crabgrass for hay?

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tom4018 wrote:Anyone use crabgrass for hay? If so how late can it be planted?


Yes as it is taking over several of my fields. It’s the Red River variety, I mixed mine with rye grass in the fall.

Is it hard to get it to dry down?
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Postby M-5 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:52 am

I do not know about red river but when baling common crab grass its drys about like bahia
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Re: Crabgrass for hay?

Postby Caustic Burno » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:07 am

tom4018 wrote:
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tom4018 wrote:Anyone use crabgrass for hay? If so how late can it be planted?


Yes as it is taking over several of my fields. It’s the Red River variety, I mixed mine with rye grass in the fall.

Is it hard to get it to dry down?



Yes I attribute it to being thicker
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Re: Crabgrass for hay?

Postby rollinhills » Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:31 pm

tom4018 wrote:Anyone use crabgrass for hay? If so how late can it be planted?



We've been using it for hay the last two years and really like it. I cut it with a mower conditioner, but it don't seem to be any different than any grass hay about drying down. Now is the time to so it, it will come up when the ground gets warm enough.
We used the Red River.
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Re: Crabgrass for hay?

Postby tom4018 » Tue May 01, 2018 7:27 am

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tom4018 wrote:Anyone use crabgrass for hay? If so how late can it be planted?



We've been using it for hay the last two years and really like it. I cut it with a mower conditioner, but it don't seem to be any different than any grass hay about drying down. Now is the time to so it, it will come up when the ground gets warm enough.
We used the Red River.

Do you let it go to seed in the fall? Someone said if you did it would come back the next year. Seed seems to be high from what I find.
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Re: Crabgrass for hay?

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tom4018 wrote:
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tom4018 wrote:Anyone use crabgrass for hay? If so how late can it be planted?



We've been using it for hay the last two years and really like it. I cut it with a mower conditioner, but it don't seem to be any different than any grass hay about drying down. Now is the time to so it, it will come up when the ground gets warm enough.
We used the Red River.

Do you let it go to seed in the fall? Someone said if you did it would come back the next year. Seed seems to be high from what I find.


These fact sheets will explain getting it to volunteer reseed:

http://redrivercrabgrass.com/fact-sheets.html
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Re: Crabgrass for hay?

Postby rollinhills » Tue May 01, 2018 10:54 am

tom4018 wrote:
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tom4018 wrote:Anyone use crabgrass for hay? If so how late can it be planted?



We've been using it for hay the last two years and really like it. I cut it with a mower conditioner, but it don't seem to be any different than any grass hay about drying down. Now is the time to so it, it will come up when the ground gets warm enough.
We used the Red River.

Do you let it go to seed in the fall? Someone said if you did it would come back the next year. Seed seems to be high from what I find.



No I seeded in the spring got two cutting the first year and three last year. Seems,Iike I put out 3 lbs /ac, I used aged seed more of it will come up the first year, I’ve been letting the last cutting get mature so it will be seeded for the next year. Now is the time to sow it, mix it with fertilizer, I used 300lbs/ac of triple 19.
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Re: Crabgrass for hay?

Postby Texasmark » Wed May 02, 2018 7:10 pm

M-5 wrote: its drys about like bahia
How's that? Have thought about it as a hay crop a time or two.
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Re: Crabgrass for hay?

Postby M-5 » Wed May 02, 2018 7:39 pm

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M-5 wrote: its drys about like bahia
How's that? Have thought about it as a hay crop a time or two.

Bahia can be cut and baled in 2 to 3 days most of the time the stem is hardest to dry . But sunny days it's easy. Common crab grass is not as thick of stem but leaf is wider. It takes teddering well. It's good feed .
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Re: Crabgrass for hay?

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M-5 wrote:
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M-5 wrote: its drys about like bahia
How's that? Have thought about it as a hay crop a time or two.

Bahia can be cut and baled in 2 to 3 days most of the time the stem is hardest to dry . But sunny days it's easy. Common crab grass is not as thick of stem but leaf is wider. It takes teddering well. It's good feed .


Moving along with Bahia: I took a trip out West years ago and it was everywhere. Appeared to me that the highway depts of TX, NM, and AZ adopted it for roadside erosion protection. I didn't see much leaf, just long, thin stems and seed heads....not much leaf as you said and not much volume. Is it really worth the time and effort as a hay crop?
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Re: Crabgrass for hay?

Postby M-5 » Thu May 03, 2018 6:26 am

Texasmark wrote:
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Texasmark wrote: How's that? Have thought about it as a hay crop a time or two.

Bahia can be cut and baled in 2 to 3 days most of the time the stem is hardest to dry . But sunny days it's easy. Common crab grass is not as thick of stem but leaf is wider. It takes teddering well. It's good feed .


Moving along with Bahia: I took a trip out West years ago and it was everywhere. Appeared to me that the highway depts of TX, NM, and AZ adopted it for roadside erosion protection. I didn't see much leaf, just long, thin stems and seed heads....not much leaf as you said and not much volume. Is it really worth the time and effort as a hay crop?

Look up Argentine Bahia , Tiff 9 . Common does not produce the tonnage BUT it starts early and stays late with drought tolorance . I don't want everything in Bahia but I want some because it might make sure I have feed if rain stops.
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Re: Crabgrass for hay?

Postby Texasmark » Thu May 03, 2018 1:33 pm

M-5 wrote:
Texasmark wrote:
M-5 wrote:Bahia can be cut and baled in 2 to 3 days most of the time the stem is hardest to dry . But sunny days it's easy. Common crab grass is not as thick of stem but leaf is wider. It takes teddering well. It's good feed .


Moving along with Bahia: I took a trip out West years ago and it was everywhere. Appeared to me that the highway depts of TX, NM, and AZ adopted it for roadside erosion protection. I didn't see much leaf, just long, thin stems and seed heads....not much leaf as you said and not much volume. Is it really worth the time and effort as a hay crop?

Look up Argentine Bahia , Tiff 9 . Common does not produce the tonnage BUT it starts early and stays late with drought tolorance . I don't want everything in Bahia but I want some because it might make sure I have feed if rain stops.


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Re: Crabgrass for hay?

Postby M-5 » Thu May 03, 2018 2:18 pm

Texasmark wrote:
M-5 wrote:
Texasmark wrote:
Moving along with Bahia: I took a trip out West years ago and it was everywhere. Appeared to me that the highway depts of TX, NM, and AZ adopted it for roadside erosion protection. I didn't see much leaf, just long, thin stems and seed heads....not much leaf as you said and not much volume. Is it really worth the time and effort as a hay crop?

Look up Argentine Bahia , Tiff 9 . Common does not produce the tonnage BUT it starts early and stays late with drought tolorance . I don't want everything in Bahia but I want some because it might make sure I have feed if rain stops.


Thanks, My like (heart) function isn't working.


If we can get a shower of rain Im gonna drill some brown top on 20" centers in one patch of bahia and it should mature when the bahia does this should give it a little more protein. About the best you will get on common is around 9%
avg is about 6 %
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