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hi mag cattle mineral...will it hurt horses?

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:58 am
by greybeard
Time to put out hi mag loose mineral here, but I'm looking after a horse that's in with some of my cows. Will it hurt the horse?
(I haven't bought the mineral yet so I can't tell you what ingredients or what % each is right now)
Suggestions?

Re: hi mag cattle mineral...will it hurt horses?

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:11 am
by Bigfoot
IMHO, the horse will be fine. Urea or rumensin, would be a deal breaker.

My mineral formulated for horses has no magnesium. I have often made a mental note of that.

Re: hi mag cattle mineral...will it hurt horses?

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:56 pm
by wbvs58
I have a high mag mineral only (urea, rumensin or any) and on the label it gives a horse doseage, hope it is OK, Pam is giving it to her beloved steed.

Ken

Re: hi mag cattle mineral...will it hurt horses?

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:03 pm
by bird dog
Off topic a bit but a quick question. Is there a sensible way to add Magnesium to your existing mineral? I buy my mineral by the ton but only want the hi mag for just a few weeks a year.

Re: hi mag cattle mineral...will it hurt horses?

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:58 am
by Nesikep
Adding Epsom salts to it would add Magnesium and would be palatable, but it's a bit bitter, and if you're looking to up it to 10% Mg, it might take a fair bit.. On the bright side, it wouldn't take meticulous mixing since it's a macromineral, and it's probably what's in the high-mag anyhow.. Epsom salts are readily available in 50 lb bags from chemical suppliers too..

Re: hi mag cattle mineral...will it hurt horses?

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:01 am
by wbvs58
Yes, I am sure it is MgSo4 (epsom salt) that is used in the high mag minerals. Where I am the manufactures use copra meal with it as the sweetener. They like repeat sales so are quick to respond to make product more palatable if there is an issue when it is not being consumed.

Ken

Re: hi mag cattle mineral...will it hurt horses?

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:05 pm
by TexasBred
wbvs58 wrote:Yes, I am sure it is MgSo4 (epsom salt) that is used in the high mag minerals. Where I am the manufactures use copra meal with it as the sweetener. They like repeat sales so are quick to respond to make product more palatable if there is an issue when it is not being consumed.

Ken

Don't know about down under Ken but here most companies use Mag-Ox as the magnesium source.

Re: hi mag cattle mineral...will it hurt horses?

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:01 pm
by wbvs58
TexasBred wrote:
wbvs58 wrote:Yes, I am sure it is MgSo4 (epsom salt) that is used in the high mag minerals. Where I am the manufactures use copra meal with it as the sweetener. They like repeat sales so are quick to respond to make product more palatable if there is an issue when it is not being consumed.

Ken

Don't know about down under Ken but here most companies use Mag-Ox as the magnesium source.

Probably the case here too TB now that you mention it, I did not look at the label but I know it needs something to sweeten it up a bit and my immediate thought was a horrible taste from epsom salts.

Ken

Re: hi mag cattle mineral...will it hurt horses?

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:13 am
by greybeard
Are you talking about magnesium oxide?
surely not.......by itself, it's not very soluble.

Re: hi mag cattle mineral...will it hurt horses?

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:29 pm
by TexasBred
greybeard wrote:Are you talking about magnesium oxide?
surely not.......by itself, it's not very soluble.

But it contains 55-60% magnesium compared to barely 20% for mag. sulfate. Neither taste very good so need something added to give it some palatability.

Re: hi mag cattle mineral...will it hurt horses?

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 11:33 am
by TexasBred
Bigfoot wrote:IMHO, the horse will be fine. Urea or rumensin, would be a deal breaker.

My mineral formulated for horses has no magnesium. I have often made a mental note of that.

https://performanceequinenutrition.com/ ... superhero/

Re: hi mag cattle mineral...will it hurt horses?

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 11:34 am
by TexasBred
bird dog wrote:Off topic a bit but a quick question. Is there a sensible way to add Magnesium to your existing mineral? I buy my mineral by the ton but only want the hi mag for just a few weeks a year.

Switch to a Hi Mag non medicated cattle mineral. Won't hurt a thing.