Navicular Horse

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Postby Alan » Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:56 pm

Thanks for the reply. I can understand a statement like; "Quarter Horses are one of the breeds that you see Navicular disease a little more often than you do in some of the other breeds".

I'm glad we agree that "All QH's are predisosed to Navicular disease" was bad, misleading statement.

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Postby gnrhorses » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:30 pm

We have a horse that has had x-rays and found that there are small lolly pop type lesions on the navicular bone. And yes he is a appendix/quarter type horse, not registered now may have been in the past. Some lines of the QH, Paint & T-breds are predisposed to this syndrome/disease because they have smaller feet in relation to size. This is how they have been bred. Back when, breeders liked the bulk and body mass on spindly legs and feet. These where halter horses for the most part, now I don’t have anything against people that breed and show halter horses it was just the fad of the times. Now, that put more stress on the ligaments and tendons in the legs and feet. The navicular ligament & bone were the ones that suffered the most.

Getting back to our navic horse, Scooter. We bought Scooter at the local sale. I am very weary of buying at that sales barn because there are a lot of people that bring horses there to “get rid of them” and I have seen a few come out of there being drugged up or doped up to cover “things”. But I was in the market for a replacement cow horse for my husband and thought that I would go look. It was in February, one of the better sales that you can actually find a decent horse in. This horse can into the ring and I had not seen it prior to the sale but her was doing awesome cutting moves in the ring and I didn’t see any lameness or rents and dents on the horse. He seemed very laid back and I knew that I was buying a pig and a poke. Brought him home and he was ok for about 2 days then he started to show a little gimp, not much but just a slight offness (if that is a word!). Within two weeks he was “off” not lame but we know that something was wrong before we bought him at this point. Tried to work with our farrier, because his feet were in need of work when I bought him, but that was not enough. Had him x-rayed and that is when they told us that he had navic. I had not dealt with this before so I talk to a couple of vets to find out what my options were. They had me start him on Isoxaprine (a capulary dialator to help with blood flow to the hoof) and 2 grams of bute every day. This along with what my farrier, at the time, was doing really helped. He actually was usable to team pen on for about a year and a half. This spring, however, he started to come up lame even on the Isox. My farrier at the time, who is a master farrier and has been doing it for 52 years and was a teacher for farriers, was starting to make the horse lame after trimming and shoeing. We board horses and some of my clients had switched to a new young farrier in the area and I decided that I would let him take a look at Scooter and get his thoughts about what he would do for him. He contacted his mentor and the school in which he attended and came up with a plan that has been working quit well. My other farrier was trying build the foot up naturally, which I am all for, but if it is not working then you have to do something else. By the time that I had the new farrier take over Scooter had so much hoof that you could use the back of his egg bar shoe as a handle. New farrier cut almost 1/2 inch of hoof off all the way around. But didn’t change the angles. He then put on a different bar shoe with some mesh fabric. Then used Equi-Pak and filled the whole sole and frog up to the level of the bottom of the hoof. The next day we had a cattle drive to do on dirt roads which we were concerned about because he would have been sore the next day for sure previously, farrier had family crisis so date was changed to that date. Scoot was sound the whole day and every day since. It has been 8 weeks now and he is still doing well. We are considering cutting his bute down to 1 gram and see if there is a difference. We are just so happy with him and his “new” feet and he is, too!


Sorry this has gotten so long but I hope that it helps you to know that there are alternatives and there are ways to make our navic horses more comfortable and yes even usable!
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Postby Arthur » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:01 pm

New farrier cut almost 1/2 inch of hoof off all the way around. But didn’t change the angles. He then put on a different bar shoe with some mesh fabric. Then used Equi-Pak and filled the whole sole and frog up to the level of the bottom of the hoof.

Can you tell me if this is a glue on shoe than because you are using the mesh fabric?

I would like to pass this on to my husband who is a farrier. If you could be exact on what is being used I would really appreciate it.

The bute works really well for our horse and we were giving 2 grams of bute but were told this is not good for more than 14 days. We should do couple days on and a couple days off.

Thanks for the response.
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Postby gnrhorses » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:14 pm

Well because it was the first time I have seen it used I will give you web site info so that you can get true info on products that were used. The shes were nailed on and the caulking was pushed in after the shoes. The boards and mesh held the caulking in.

Equi-Thane Glue-on-Shoe & Hoof Repair Dispensing Gun
Equi-Mesh
Mixing Tips
Adhesive Foam Boards
Equi-Pak Hoof Packing
http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_search_results.html?search=F3D5C08B8AD041A8A866F79BE773FEA3&display=no

or at the company web site, which has a lot more info
http://www.vettec.com/65/faq.html


To get Scooter trimmed (4), shod (2), and packed (2) was $120 but he said that he gave me a deal because we are friends.
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