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Re: Fence knots.

Postby Farm Fence Solutions » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:55 pm

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Grundy53 wrote:Those reef knots are called square knots in the rope world... :lol2: :lol:


Ahhh, but if that rope were to be called a line or a sheet, it'd be a reef knot. ;-)

True, to the bitter ends, but without looking, what is a Charlie Noble and where would one find the Nome rivet?


You've got me on the Nome rivet, but a Charlie Noble is the vent from the galley cook stove.(I just replaced ours....kind of) So what is a Nome rivet?
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Re: Fence knots.

Postby greybeard » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:24 pm

I had never heard of nome rivet either until I went aboard a Navy replenishment vessel. According to naval and maritime freighter lore, it's a mysterious rivet under the #1 starboard kingpost. On AO 51, Astabula, there was a brass data plate indicating "nome rivet below this king post'. I have no idea what it's purpose or usefulness is, or why it was called that but have heard it referred to several times and always only by sailors with oiler or underway replenishment vessel background.
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Re: Fence knots.

Postby Farm Fence Solutions » Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:40 am

greybeard wrote:I had never heard of nome rivet either until I went aboard a Navy replenishment vessel. According to naval and maritime freighter lore, it's a mysterious rivet under the #1 starboard kingpost. On AO 51, Astabula, there was a brass data plate indicating "nome rivet below this king post'. I have no idea what it's purpose or usefulness is, or why it was called that but have heard it referred to several times and always only by sailors with oiler or underway replenishment vessel background.
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That's interesting. I'll have to see what I can dig up.
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Re: Fence knots.

Postby Farm Fence Solutions » Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:08 pm

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In honor of fence_it's birthday, I forgot my Gripple tool in the truck and had to go old school this evening.
Tex Brown with a pair of modified termination knots in a brace wire.
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Re: Fence knots.

Postby callmefence » Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:05 pm

Farm Fence Solutions wrote:Image

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In honor of fence_it's birthday, I forgot my Gripple tool in the truck and had to go old school this evening.
Tex Brown with a pair of modified termination knots in a brace wire.


I'm thinking he'd probably rather have your gripple tool.
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Re: Fence knots.

Postby fence_it » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:21 pm

callmefence wrote:
Farm Fence Solutions wrote:Image

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In honor of fence_it's birthday, I forgot my Gripple tool in the truck and had to go old school this evening.
Tex Brown with a pair of modified termination knots in a brace wire.


I'm thinking he'd probably rather have your gripple tool.


More like some chain strainers and crimps!
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Re: Fence knots.

Postby fence_it » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:21 pm

Farm Fence Solutions wrote:Image

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In honor of fence_it's birthday, I forgot my Gripple tool in the truck and had to go old school this evening.
Tex Brown with a pair of modified termination knots in a brace wire.


Your knot tying skill blows me away. What KSI wire are you using?
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Re: Fence knots.

Postby Farm Fence Solutions » Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:40 pm

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Farm Fence Solutions wrote:Image

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In honor of fence_it's birthday, I forgot my Gripple tool in the truck and had to go old school this evening.
Tex Brown with a pair of modified termination knots in a brace wire.


Your knot tying skill blows me away. What KSI wire are you using?


I prefer 180. Anything over 200 is a no go for hand knotting.
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Re: Fence knots.

Postby fence_it » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:01 pm

Farm Fence Solutions wrote:
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Farm Fence Solutions wrote:Image

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In honor of fence_it's birthday, I forgot my Gripple tool in the truck and had to go old school this evening.
Tex Brown with a pair of modified termination knots in a brace wire.


Your knot tying skill blows me away. What KSI wire are you using?


I prefer 180. Anything over 200 is a no go for hand knotting.


We use 200, it is real tough to tie, takes a lot of finger and hand strength. Only knots we tie are termination, use crimps for everything else. Dad won't buy 180, says he tried some once and it broke all the time. All of our HT smooth wire is Davis.
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Re: Fence knots.

Postby Farm Fence Solutions » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:19 pm

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Your knot tying skill blows me away. What KSI wire are you using?


I prefer 180. Anything over 200 is a no go for hand knotting.


We use 200, it is real tough to tie, takes a lot of finger and hand strength. Only knots we tie are termination, use crimps for everything else. Dad won't buy 180, says he tried some once and it broke all the time. All of our HT smooth wire is Davis.


It's been a while since I've tried anything else, but I had quite a bit of trouble with 200 and especially 210 breaking with even the simplest of knots. I can't say that I remember ever having any trouble or complaints from customers with our 180, and even have several that drive out of their way to come buy it from us. 210 Chinese junk at the farm store is just about the only other option around here, so it makes it pretty easy for us to sell ours. :D I need to make a trip to the UK in the next month or two.....If you're up for a fencing vacation, you ought to come along.
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Re: Fence knots.

Postby fence_it » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:46 pm

Thats interesting on the wire.

Sure would love to look at some of the fence and equipment they use across the pond. But we are busier than heck here and it aint letting up. 60 and sunny here today, great fencing weather so we are having lots of 12 hour days. Sure wish it would slow down a little!
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Re: Fence knots.

Postby Farm Fence Solutions » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:50 pm

fence_it wrote:Thats interesting on the wire.

Sure would love to look at some of the fence and equipment they use across the pond. But we are busier than heck here and it aint letting up. 60 and sunny here today, great fencing weather so we are having lots of 12 hour days. Sure wish it would slow down a little!


It never will. :lol: You just have to take a break when you want to do something.
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Re: Fence knots.

Postby fence_it » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:04 pm

Farm Fence Solutions wrote:
fence_it wrote:Thats interesting on the wire.

Sure would love to look at some of the fence and equipment they use across the pond. But we are busier than heck here and it aint letting up. 60 and sunny here today, great fencing weather so we are having lots of 12 hour days. Sure wish it would slow down a little!


It never will. :lol: You just have to take a break when you want to do something.


I believe that. Spent my birthday putting up hotwire, reckon I nailed on about 200 fin tubes this afternoon. I've heard farmers say farming is not a job, but a way of life. Well I think its the same with fence building! :cboy:
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Re: Fence knots.

Postby greybeard » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:48 am

I using 200. I can tie it, but no way I can tie knots that nice. I be a bloody mess before I get done with one Texbrown. Reefs are only a little easier.
Right now, all my ht work is between pre-existing strands of Gaucho barbed wire, so there isn't much room to work without getting stuck. (Turning 5 strand barb fences into 8 strand slick/barb to make one pasture absolutely calf proof..or as close to it as I can without going knotted fence)



I'd like to see a video of you doing a Texbrown with 200.
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Re: Fence knots.

Postby M-5 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:02 am

Figure 8 is all you need on 200
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