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Is he a dwarf?

Postby webercattle » Wed May 25, 2016 2:27 pm

This is my first question, even though I've been reading for a long time.
This little guy will be 9 months old on June 1. He is very docile for being on pasture with mom and herd. His parents are both black Angus. Just wondering what y'all think. Is he a dwarf? The first picture was taken in November standing beside two calves that are the same age. The second is what he looks like now. Thanks in advance. Any opinions are appreciated!
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Re: Is he a dwarf?

Postby M-5 » Wed May 25, 2016 4:55 pm

I would assume he's a dwarf but his parents ain't angus . looks like a highland
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Postby True Grit Farms » Wed May 25, 2016 5:08 pm

M-5 wrote:I would assume he's a dwarf but his parents ain't angus . looks like a highland


And you know this how? I see black cows in the picture so the calf must be an Angus. After all he does have horns.
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Re: Is he a dwarf?

Postby Williamsv » Wed May 25, 2016 5:39 pm

I cannot see a bit of Angus in him either. He does look like a Highland.
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Re: Is he a dwarf?

Postby webercattle » Wed May 25, 2016 8:02 pm

His parents are Angus. Biggest black cow on that pasture and only one black bull in the herd. Cow was feeding him so he had to be hers. As far as I'm aware there aren't any Highlands around here. Although I will agree he does look like one. What are some of the problems with dwarfs? My grandkids love him and have named him bulldozer. Like I said he's very gentle for not being around people. I've never seen him run either. Not even for the occasional feed treat. We have no plans to sell him or breed him. Just keep him for the kids. I'm thinking I might have to shear him though...
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Re: Is he a dwarf?

Postby TennesseeTuxedo » Thu May 26, 2016 7:23 am

Weber, that's not the progeny of an Angus.
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Re: Is he a dwarf?

Postby Caustic Burno » Thu May 26, 2016 7:29 am

TennesseeTuxedo wrote:Weber, that's not the progeny of an Angus.

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Something got through the fence or that cow or bull is not 100% Angus.
He doesn't have the typical snorter or dwarf characteristics of English breeds. He does have Highlands stamped all over.
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Re: Is he a dwarf?

Postby M-5 » Thu May 26, 2016 7:44 am

webercattle wrote:His parents are Angus. Biggest black cow on that pasture and only one black bull in the herd. Cow was feeding him so he had to be hers. As far as I'm aware there aren't any Highlands around here. Although I will agree he does look like one. What are some of the problems with dwarfs? My grandkids love him and have named him bulldozer. Like I said he's very gentle for not being around people. I've never seen him run either. Not even for the occasional feed treat. We have no plans to sell him or breed him. Just keep him for the kids. I'm thinking I might have to shear him though...


Black does not equal ANGUS , The sire or dam has something in their background and that something is most likely highland
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Re: Is he a dwarf?

Postby Son of Butch » Thu May 26, 2016 11:13 am

webercattle wrote:This is my first question....
His parents are both black Angus. Is he a dwarf?
Any opinions are appreciated! Just wondering what y'all think.
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No, I think he is a midget, not a dwarf.
In my opinion Bulldozer is as cute as all get out.
My opinion is his sire was not black angus. Judging by his long hair, muscling and short neck, a docile crossbred perhaps
his sire was a California Red x Texel

below are a couple of links for all to see how correct I might be
http://www.raisingsheep.net/california-red.html
http://www.raisingsheep.net/texel.html
http://www.raisingsheep.net/sheep-breeds.html

As you can see I am open minded so feedback is welcome... :tiphat:
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Re: Is he a dwarf?

Postby webercattle » Thu May 26, 2016 1:19 pm

Thanks for all the feedback! Bulldozers mom has had 4 calves before him and they were all black. We've had this particular bull for about 3 years with a herd of about a dozen cows and heifers and none of their offspring have looked like bulldozer. But obviously there is something off somewhere. This cow is due to calf next month so I'm curious to see what she will have.
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Re: Is he a dwarf?

Postby Lucky_P » Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:57 pm

Nice leg-pull, weber.

Neither of that calf's parents are black Angus.
There's no way you'd get that dun color from two BLACK cattle.
There's no way you'd get horns from two Angus cattle - or from an Angus cow, for that matter.

Now, it's possible that its dam is a black cow - and possibly even with some Angus influence, but she's not an Angus cow, and your black bull, whatever he may be, is not the sire of this calf.
There's a Highland or Galloway(or more than one) somewhere in the mix. I'm betting on Highland.
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Re: Is he a dwarf?

Postby MNBelties » Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:39 pm

Highlander cross
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