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"Back grounding" Beef Cattle

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:52 pm
by RidgeFarm3006
Hello!

I was wondering if anyone on here could assist me with the production process I have found to be called "back grounding" cattle. It's the process where you obtain calves after weaned and raise them to be sent off to a feedlot. Some general questions I have would be;
What breed should I use that would be the best for a beginner?
How many head I should purchase to start off with?
How many acres they will usually need?
and any other general information that can be provided.
Any information available will be greatly appreciated!
Thank you!

Re: "Back grounding" Beef Cattle

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:25 pm
by M.Magis
Is this just for research, or are you interested in getting started? I’m certainly no expert, but I’ve been around cattle my entire life and the thought of backgrounding calves scares me. Make sure your fences are bullet proof, and that you have a local vet that’ll make farm calls.

Re: "Back grounding" Beef Cattle

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:36 pm
by poorfarmer
Best bet might be to find a local farmer, willing to sell to you without going through a sale barn. Also what is your location?

Re: "Back grounding" Beef Cattle

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:40 pm
by Bigfoot
Backgrounding is a tough go, with a pretty thin margin sometimes. You also need an eye for when they're getting sick, not necessarily when they are sick.

Re: "Back grounding" Beef Cattle

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:38 pm
by RidgeFarm3006
M.Magis wrote:Is this just for research, or are you interested in getting started? I’m certainly no expert, but I’ve been around cattle my entire life and the thought of backgrounding calves scares me. Make sure your fences are bullet proof, and that you have a local vet that’ll make farm calls.

Looking to get started. We're located in North Eastern PA

Re: "Back grounding" Beef Cattle

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:03 am
by RiverHills
Do you have any experience with cattle or a complete beginner?

Re: "Back grounding" Beef Cattle

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:21 pm
by Chocolate Cow
Be prepared to live with them. I mean live with them. Tickets to Merle Haggard were given away because we felt we couldn't leave.. too many sick calves. Don't use round bale feeders. Feed in bunks. If they don't come to the bunk to eat-they're sick. There isn't enough time or space here to write about it all. Find something else to do.

Re: "Back grounding" Beef Cattle

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:20 pm
by 3LEGGED1
Find some articles to read. Major investment.death loss will kill your margins. They'll be no more free time. Last Tmr I bought used was 22,000. Calves are a lot like human babys, can you see 300 babys with a cold cause it was hot two days and today it is cold.but good luck.

Re: "Back grounding" Beef Cattle

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 9:28 am
by RanchMan90
This is probably one of the toughest seasons to background cattle in. Bigger cattle are less challenging to start with, such as 5 weight calves instead of 2 weights. Also their source has a lot to do with, such as sale barn or country calves. They do best getting them out on some turf as soon as possible out of a dusty pen. As said above if they don't come to feed they're usually sick. Keep a well stocked med cabinet (draxxin and la200) or become friends with your vet. As far as gains you'll need to feed 2% of their body weight, you can get by on less with forage if your not pushing for big gains. If it were easy everybody would be doing it.

Re: "Back grounding" Beef Cattle

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:10 am
by Stocker Steve
1) rwf
2) as much as you can afford to lose
3) dry lot
4) mass medicate, and then take them for a walk 3x per day

Re: "Back grounding" Beef Cattle

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:36 am
by RanchMan90
Stocker Steve wrote:1) rwf
2) as much as you can afford to lose
3) dry lot
4) mass medicate, and then take them for a walk 3x per day

Good advice. What's your logic to red cattle over black?

Re: "Back grounding" Beef Cattle

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:54 pm
by Stocker Steve
Lower cost and more hardy for a beginner

Re: "Back grounding" Beef Cattle

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:11 pm
by js1234
Stocker Steve wrote:Lower cost and more hardy for a beginner

Bingo.

Re: "Back grounding" Beef Cattle

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 11:11 pm
by js1234
Don't.