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Winter Garden 2017

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:02 am
by skyhightree1
Anyone got theirs in yet? I am planting cabbage kurly kale kurly mustard collard greens and purple top turnips broccoli.

Re: Winter Garden 2017

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:52 am
by cow pollinater
I've got broccoli and brussel sprouts out and parsnip seed starting to germinate. Onions, garlic spinach and cabbage are going in today unless I get sidetracked like I did the last four times I've said that.

Re: Winter Garden 2017

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:35 pm
by Ky hills
Last Wednesday, I put out mustard greens, collards, both purple top, and white turnips, beets. Last night, put out some lettuce, black seeded Simpson and Romaine, spinach, and kale. Should have some Roma beans coming in around early part of October.

Re: Winter Garden 2017

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:10 pm
by Craig Miller
I'm still getting tomatoes and peppers. They are pretty much played out though. I'll probably clean it up and plant something next couple weeks. Does anybody use pine straw in their garden? Seems to me like I could cover the whole garden in It and keep the weeds out.

Re: Winter Garden 2017

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:12 pm
by skyhightree1
Craig Miller wrote:I'm still getting tomatoes and peppers. They are pretty much played out though. I'll probably clean it up and plant something next couple weeks. Does anybody use pine straw in their garden? Seems to me like I could cover the whole garden in It and keep the weeds out.


I am still getting those too... I just dug a bunch of sweet potatoes as well. I would never put pine needles in mine

Re: Winter Garden 2017

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:58 pm
by slick4591
Craig Miller wrote:I'm still getting tomatoes and peppers. They are pretty much played out though. I'll probably clean it up and plant something next couple weeks. Does anybody use pine straw in their garden? Seems to me like I could cover the whole garden in It and keep the weeds out.


Have you ever tried just pruning those tomatoes back? We did a few plants last year and milked those vines for a few more in the cooler weather.

Re: Winter Garden 2017

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:13 pm
by Craig Miller
slick4591 wrote:
Craig Miller wrote:I'm still getting tomatoes and peppers. They are pretty much played out though. I'll probably clean it up and plant something next couple weeks. Does anybody use pine straw in their garden? Seems to me like I could cover the whole garden in It and keep the weeds out.


Have you ever tried just pruning those tomatoes back? We did a few plants last year and milked those vines for a few more in the cooler weather.

Never tried that. But I think my wife has canned all the tomatoes she intends to can this year. Most of them just dried up and died. How do you prune them?

Re: Winter Garden 2017

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:19 pm
by cow pollinater
Craig Miller wrote:
slick4591 wrote:
Craig Miller wrote:I'm still getting tomatoes and peppers. They are pretty much played out though. I'll probably clean it up and plant something next couple weeks. Does anybody use pine straw in their garden? Seems to me like I could cover the whole garden in It and keep the weeds out.


Have you ever tried just pruning those tomatoes back? We did a few plants last year and milked those vines for a few more in the cooler weather.

Never tried that. But I think my wife has canned all the tomatoes she intends to can this year. Most of them just dried up and died. How do you prune them?

I mowed mine about two weeks ago. They are coming back strong.

Re: Winter Garden 2017

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:20 pm
by slick4591
I just cut down to large forks and they shot out around the cuts. We can never find plants for a fall garden and heard of this method. They didn't make as many as the spring crop, but those bacon and fresh tomato sandwiches were sure good in late September.

Re: Winter Garden 2017

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:21 pm
by cow pollinater
Pine needles will mess with your PH and are slow to break down.

Re: Winter Garden 2017

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:40 pm
by Craig Miller
cow pollinater wrote:Pine needles will mess with your PH and are slow to break down.


Raises it or lowers it?

Re: Winter Garden 2017

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:07 pm
by ga.prime
Craig Miller wrote:I'm still getting tomatoes and peppers. They are pretty much played out though. I'll probably clean it up and plant something next couple weeks. Does anybody use pine straw in their garden? Seems to me like I could cover the whole garden in It and keep the weeds out.

I use it as mulch around tomato plants and also I cover the ground with it in a small blueberry orchard. It does not eliminate weeds but it helps keep them at bay. I mainly use it because it shades the soil thus reducing soil temperature and helps conserve moisture. The pH factor is a non issue. If breakdown of pinestraw acts as a soil acidifier, that's good for the blueberries and it won't break down fast enough to have any effect on the tomatoes.

Re: Winter Garden 2017

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:27 pm
by Craig Miller
ga.prime wrote:
Craig Miller wrote:I'm still getting tomatoes and peppers. They are pretty much played out though. I'll probably clean it up and plant something next couple weeks. Does anybody use pine straw in their garden? Seems to me like I could cover the whole garden in It and keep the weeds out.

I use it as mulch around tomato plants and also I cover the ground with it in a small blueberry orchard. It does not eliminate weeds but it helps keep them at bay. I mainly use it because it shades the soil thus reducing soil temperature and helps conserve moisture. The pH factor is a non issue. If breakdown of pinestraw acts as a soil acidifier, that's good for the blueberries and it won't break down fast enough to have any effect on the tomatoes.


Thanks. I'm always looking for ways to improve my garden and make things easier. With my work keeping me gone for two weeks at a time the grass and weeds will get ahead quick especially in a year that's wet like this one. My wife works hard to keep it clean but can't do everthing.