Angus Heifer bull ideas

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Re: Angus Heifer bull ideas

Postby W.B. » Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:39 am

We used Capitalist here too. I wouldn't call him a sleep all night calving ease sire as his calves have some bone when they are born. I never helped any because our heifers seem pretty capable but on some heifers with less maternal calving ease I would suspect some help might be required. I don't think you would go wrong with my earlier recommendation. If you are going to SAV sale stop in. We have about 50 Summit yearling heifers. Summit comes from a cowherd that is not pampered like most seedstock herds. Comrade would work if you can get by his pedigree, I cant so not an option here.

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Re: Angus Heifer bull ideas

Postby Jake » Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:36 am

W.B. wrote:We used Capitalist here too. I wouldn't call him a sleep all night calving ease sire as his calves have some bone when they are born. I never helped any because our heifers seem pretty capable but on some heifers with less maternal calving ease I would suspect some help might be required. I don't think you would go wrong with my earlier recommendation. If you are going to SAV sale stop in. We have about 50 Summit yearling heifers. Summit comes from a cowherd that is not pampered like most seedstock herds. Comrade would work if you can get by his pedigree, I cant so not an option here.

We are flying up this year. Going to try for a couple rito Bulls. See if we are lucky enough. I also can't get past comrades pedigree so he will not be used here. I have joked that I will breed them wagyu before I use him.

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Re: Angus Heifer bull ideas

Postby W.B. » Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:23 am

Good luck, hope you get what you want. I keep telling myself I am going to get there but always have schedule conflicts here. Just to spectate of course. I am sure the sale will go well.

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Re: Angus Heifer bull ideas

Postby Jake » Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:26 am

W.B. wrote:Good luck, hope you get what you want. I keep telling myself I am going to get there but always have schedule conflicts here. Just to spectate of course. I am sure the sale will go well.

Not to wish them a lack of success but it wouldn't hurt my feelings if things backed off from the past two years. My budget doesn't compensate for what the average has been.

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Re: Angus Heifer bull ideas

Postby Air gator » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:17 pm

I would consider Connealy Thunder. A 10 for CED. Good numbers for CEM and DOC. Also if you get heifers you can breed them to a lot of different sire lines. There are some nice A.I bulls out of CT cows.

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Re: Angus Heifer bull ideas

Postby angus9259 » Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:18 am

NBar Prime Time D806. Sleep all night and into the next morning.

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Re: Angus Heifer bull ideas

Postby Son of Butch » Sun Feb 14, 2016 1:23 pm

Jake wrote: (Looking for a "Sleep All Night" A.I. proven calving ease bull)
Going to have 50 head to calve out and I live 3 hours from the farm so live calves is the most important piece.

Everyone knows you have to give up something going with a calving ease deluxe bull.
Appears Summit may be your best compromise, after all his epd $W is about as good as it gets, top 5% at $85
ce 15 bw -1.0 and .91 accuracy
http://www.selectsiresbeef.com/index.ph ... ge?bid=181

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Re: Angus Heifer bull ideas

Postby angus9259 » Sun Feb 14, 2016 1:34 pm

Interesting on summit. I used Game Day one season and had toes pointing every direction but forward on better than half of his progeny by weaning time. nice chunky calves - made some great low input feeder calves - but the feet thing made me swear off those genetics forever for anything for retaining. That said, I'm sure folks have used him with great success.

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Re: Angus Heifer bull ideas

Postby cow pollinater » Sun Feb 14, 2016 1:38 pm

Special Focus might be another one for you to think about.

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Re: Angus Heifer bull ideas

Postby Jake » Sun Feb 14, 2016 1:43 pm

cow pollinater wrote:Special Focus might be another one for you to think about.


I do know that one won't work. I am be nice bent on there never being any mytty in focus blood on our place.

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Re: Angus Heifer bull ideas

Postby Son of Butch » Sun Feb 14, 2016 1:46 pm

Now Jake you're throwing up obstacles you haven't mentioned before.

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Re: Angus Heifer bull ideas

Postby Jake » Sun Feb 14, 2016 1:49 pm

Son of Butch wrote:Now Jake you're throwing up obstacles you haven't mentioned before.


I apologize. I said ten x in the original post but should have just said in focus. I have never seen a bull that can ruin feet legs and udders as quick as that bull I have never understood why he was so popular.

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Re: Angus Heifer bull ideas

Postby bse » Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:22 pm

Jake how many them bulls did you pick up? Sounds like another strong sale. These are numbers I read.
Bulls avg $16,246
Females $18,652
Gross $11,441,500

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Re: Angus Heifer bull ideas

Postby Son of Butch » Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:49 pm

Final Four is another bull that meets the live calf criteria 18 ce -4.1 bw .76 acc, but you give up $30 on $W vs Summit
here's the link so you (and others) can browse Accelerated's sire line up at your convenience.
http://www.accelgen.com/catalog/semen-b ... four-0411/

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Re: Angus Heifer bull ideas

Postby Jake » Sun Feb 14, 2016 3:15 pm

bse wrote:Jake how many them bulls did you pick up? Sounds like another strong sale. These are numbers I read.
Bulls avg $16,246
Females $18,652
Gross $11,441,500


Grabbed three Hesston sons. 314,336,337. Bulls got reasonable towards the end. Females were ridiculous.