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BioPryn?

Postby tom4018 » Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:57 pm

Anyone use the BioPryn test to confirm pregnancy on their cows?

Is there another option for preg tests other than Palpation?
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Postby Bigfoot » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:00 am

I use it on my heifers every year. I like it. Go ahead and buy a 3cc syringe for each cow. If your not used to using those vacuum tubes, they'll make you cuss. Then squirt the blood in the tube.
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Postby Red Bull Breeder » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:11 am

Ultrasound is another option.
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Re: BioPryn?

Postby tom4018 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:45 am

Red Bull Breeder wrote:Ultrasound is another option.


I guess I should have stated an option that I could do without having someone else come out. We have some that are in several different stages of being exposed and would have to be done at different times.
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Postby tom4018 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:46 am

Bigfoot wrote:I use it on my heifers every year. I like it. Go ahead and buy a 3cc syringe for each cow. If your not used to using those vacuum tubes, they'll make you cuss. Then squirt the blood in the tube.


Once you send the samples off how long is it to get results?
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Postby slick4591 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:39 am

I normally get mine back in 3 to 4 days. I believe you can go to their page and find the closest tech to you.
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Postby inyati13 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:04 am

Tom, I do. Buy lot of 10, if I remember it comes out to only a few dollars per test. Comes with vaccuum needle to pull sample from caudal artery between the third and fourth caudal vertebra.

If I need immediate determination on pregnancy and it has been 30 days from AI, I have vet ultrasound.
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Postby tom4018 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:08 am

inyati13 wrote:Tom, I do. Buy lot of 10, if I remember it comes out to only a few dollars per test. Comes with vaccuum needle to pull sample from caudal artery between the third and fourth caudal vertebra.

If I need immediate determination on pregnancy and it has been 30 days from AI, I have vet ultrasound.


How hard is it to pull the blood? Something I have never done. Just wanting to confirm some are bred, more than I can haul at once to the vet's office but thought it might be cheaper than a farm call from the vet.
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Re: BioPryn?

Postby inyati13 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:11 am

Bigfoot wrote:I use it on my heifers every year. I like it. Go ahead and buy a 3cc syringe for each cow. If your not used to using those vacuum tubes, they'll make you cuss. Then squirt the blood in the tube.


Not lost a vaccuum seal yet. Lot easier to get a fill with a vacuum plus more sterile.
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Re: BioPryn?

Postby inyati13 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:15 am

tom4018 wrote:
inyati13 wrote:Tom, I do. Buy lot of 10, if I remember it comes out to only a few dollars per test. Comes with vaccuum needle to pull sample from caudal artery between the third and fourth caudal vertebra.

If I need immediate determination on pregnancy and it has been 30 days from AI, I have vet ultrasound.


How hard is it to pull the blood? Something I have never done. Just wanting to confirm some are bred, more than I can haul at once to the vet's office but thought it might be cheaper than a farm call from the vet.


Comes with great instructions. Not hard. The artery is in the groove under the tail. Use your thumb to locate groove. All in the instructions.
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Re: BioPryn?

Postby Bigfoot » Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:10 am

You get it back quick. It's emailed to you. 4 days tops. You can probably mail it to any of their labs, but seems like I sent mine to bowling green last spring. It's about time for me to do it again, the bull has been on the heifers since May 15th. You don't have to use their tubes. I think I bought a gross from Jeffers for nearly nothing.

Pulling the blood can be a little tricky with vacuum tube imho. Seems like I break the vacuum before I should. I just change needles and syring on each cow.
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Re: BioPryn?

Postby bse » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:34 am

Bigfoot if you were using Gold Standard in Bowling Green, they closed up about a month ago. I sure hated that took 2 days for results, have to find another place now.
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Re: BioPryn?

Postby inyati13 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:27 am

Bigfoot wrote:You get it back quick. It's emailed to you. 4 days tops. You can probably mail it to any of their labs, but seems like I sent mine to bowling green last spring. It's about time for me to do it again, the bull has been on the heifers since May 15th. You don't have to use their tubes. I think I bought a gross from Jeffers for nearly nothing.

Pulling the blood can be a little tricky with vacuum tube imho. Seems like I break the vacuum before I should. I just change needles and syring on each cow.


Bigfoot. Keep the needle under the skin before loading tube, then keep it in the flesh until you enter caudal vessel or it will pull air. I say that for Tom's benefit.

Tom, the key is locating the caudal vessel in the groove unter the tail. Count down about 3 caudal vertebra from the tail head. Find the groove on the underside of tail. Very distinct. Insert needle into the groove on the caudal vertebra. Do not go into the space between the vertebra. Go in on the body of the vertebra. I like the vacuum because when you hit the lumen of the vessel, the vial immediately fills.

You will not have any trouble. If you have trouble with the vacuum, Bigfoot's method is great too.

I get mine back in a week.
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Re: BioPryn?

Postby tom4018 » Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:57 am

inyati13 wrote:
Bigfoot wrote:You get it back quick. It's emailed to you. 4 days tops. You can probably mail it to any of their labs, but seems like I sent mine to bowling green last spring. It's about time for me to do it again, the bull has been on the heifers since May 15th. You don't have to use their tubes. I think I bought a gross from Jeffers for nearly nothing.

Pulling the blood can be a little tricky with vacuum tube imho. Seems like I break the vacuum before I should. I just change needles and syring on each cow.


Bigfoot. Keep the needle under the skin before loading tube, then keep it in the flesh until you enter caudal vessel or it will pull air. I say that for Tom's benefit.

Tom, the key is locating the caudal vessel in the groove unter the tail. Count down about 3 caudal vertebra from the tail head. Find the groove on the underside of tail. Very distinct. Insert needle into the groove on the caudal vertebra. Do not go into the space between the vertebra. Go in on the body of the vertebra. I like the vacuum because when you hit the lumen of the vessel, the vial immediately fills.

You will not have any trouble. If you have trouble with the vacuum, Bigfoot's method is great too.

I get mine back in a week.


Which lab are you sending yours to? I had heard the one in Bowling Green closed.
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Re: BioPryn?

Postby Lucky_P » Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:59 am

Gold Standard Labs closed their BG KY and TX labs. Saw where they were recommending sending samples to KSU - but they are headquartered in KS. Most state or university-affiliated veterinary diagnostic laboratories perform the bovine pregnancy tests and BVD-PI tests that GSL was offering, at similar pricing - though some may charge slightly more - USDA and accrediting bodies don't allow them to 'pool' samples, because of quality assurance issues.

So... check with your state/univ. veterinary diagnostic lab for pricing, turn-around time, requirements, etc.
I know the lab I work at offers price breaks at certain numbers of animals for the bovine pregnancy test - but for the life of me, I can't figure it out from the price list on the website; I have to call someone in the clerical/billing section to get that, whenever I field a call about it.
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