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TWINS!!!!

Postby coyotefur » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:26 am

This morning we learned that twins were born on the farm. Wonderful news. They were a little early but apparently that's expected with twins.

Question. What abnormal considerations should i take into account vs 1 calf? This is the cows second birthing.

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Re: TWINS!!!!

Postby M.Magis » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:52 am

First and foremost, make sure she accepts both and they both got adequate colostrum. Good luck. My one experience with twins didn't go well.
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Re: TWINS!!!!

Postby coyotefur » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:57 am

what happened?
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Re: TWINS!!!!

Postby dun » Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:01 pm

Same gender twins?
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Re: TWINS!!!!

Postby coyotefur » Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:04 pm

Not sure at this point. Giving her some space.
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Re: TWINS!!!!

Postby M.Magis » Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:31 pm

coyotefur wrote:what happened?

-Cow wouldn't take both
-orphan calf wouldn't suck
-had to tube calf, first experience and likely got some fluid where it shouldn't be
-calf developed pneumonia and eventually had to put it down
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Re: TWINS!!!!

Postby FlyingLSimmentals » Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:40 pm

Make sure they both get colostrum, nursing the cow, have some shade, and probably have her put up and give her more groceries.
Personally I hate twins. We've had at least a set now for many years. I miss the years we didn't have them. I want my cows to stay in the pasture and raise one nice calf. Not have to get them up and give momma extra groceries to raise 2 average calves. Just seems more complications come with twins, born to early, born dead, one comes backward blocking path for other, cow only claims one, cow has one and moves off to have next one and never goes back to 1st one etc...
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Re: TWINS!!!!

Postby MRRherefords » Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:11 pm

If you can get the mom to accept them both, that would be ideal. I have heard that you should wean one about four months or so and get it on feed as mom might not be able to sustain two big calves. We had our first set of twins this year. Mom accepted one and not other. But thankfully, the rejected one is doing great as a bottle baby.
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Re: TWINS!!!!

Postby lithuanian farmer » Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:56 pm

We almost every year have one set of twins. This year had two pairs. Had no problems with accepting both calves, but that usually can be the main issue. Also needs to make sure that cow can raise both. Last year one pretty slim looking cow had twins. After one month one calf got ill, had to separate him, after a couple days he was okay, but his dam was barely standing, so had to give her some extra feed and left only one calf with her. She took way longer to breed back as she was very skinny. Last year she calved in April, this year she still doesn't have a calf.
Always needs to watch if both calves nurses, sometimes cow leaves one calf and walks away with another, so have to bring that one to the mom.
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Re: TWINS!!!!

Postby Stocker Steve » Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:47 pm

[quote="coyotefur"]What abnormal considerations should i take into account vs 1 calf?

You need to pull one calf - - and put in on the bottle or on a cow that lost her calf.
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Re: TWINS!!!!

Postby wbvs58 » Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:45 pm

I would put them in a small paddock or yard together at least initially so they can all find each other and know they all belong together. She needs to be fed also, from the photos she does not look too flash condition wise.

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Re: TWINS!!!!

Postby Nesikep » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:01 pm

you don't NEED to pull one of them off.. though if you can get either or both to accept a supplemental bottle of milk, it sure wouldn't hurt them... Cow definitely needs good feed, she looks a little thin.. but she seems to accept them both...

Twins are cute, but they are often problems with them.. I lost a cow this spring and another cow adopted the orphan on top of her own calf... orphan could definitely do with more milk, but he's doing OK all things considered... Her own calf looks pretty good actually.
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Re: TWINS!!!!

Postby Cucumber35 » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:33 pm

I don't particularly care for twins either. Had a pair born last year that mom accepted both but they really drug her down hard. Older cow to begin with. I pulled her off and weaned them early and gave her extra groceries to put some condition back on. Put her back with the bull and figured hopefully she would bounce back over winter. Improved some but not like I hoped. Never saw her come back into heat and no signs of being bred this spring even after everything else had pretty much calved. She was struggling to keep up with the rest of the herd so she made the short list and went up the road. Wish I hadn't fed her all winter. Had another set this year. Of course mom rejected the bull and accepted the heifer (freemartin). My girlfriend adopted the bull calf as a pet. I call it the million dollar steer. :roll: All 4 of them turned out to be dinks in my book. I would have gladly traded for one nice one both times.
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Re: TWINS!!!!

Postby cowgirl8 » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:17 pm

Unless the cow shows right away she can feed them and will, I take the smaller twin away or the one they don't except and hold it for grafting. I almost never have a cow go calfless if I keep twins handy. We have around 4 sets a twins every year. I had one cow twin two years in a row, last year and this..
I do not like keeping up with twins and if I do decide to let a cow raise twins, I eartag them so I know i'm not just seeing one calf. Now, if they are marked with white, its easier, but most our calves are black so eartags work best.
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Re: TWINS!!!!

Postby TCRanch » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:04 pm

What everyone else said! Sometimes it's great, sometimes it's a curse. You never get the follow up story on the adorable photos of twins/triplets/quads posted on Facebook/viral on the 'net. Best of luck and please keep us updated!
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