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Odds were 25%

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:23 pm

Here's an embryo heifer out of a black dam & black sire. Odds were 25% to be red. The cow is her recipient dam.

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Postby pdfangus » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:09 pm

I assume you wanted black....
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Re: Odds were 25%

Postby jd720 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:35 pm

May no be exactly what you ordered but that`s a really nice heifer. Just curious what bull is she out of ?
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Postby kenny thomas » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:10 pm

Just send her to me, I like red.
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Re: Odds were 25%

Postby Bright Raven » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:13 pm

You guys are guessing. Jeanne likes reds.
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Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:04 pm

Yes, I was delighted that she is red. She is out of one of my old (deceased) donor, Miss Power Lass, sired by Shock Force. As a newborn, she really shows a lot of potential. Already has a wide back, rib shape & deep flanked. Got a little chrome, which I also like. White on face, bellie & little on 2 rear feet.
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Re: Odds were 25%

Postby Fire Sweep Ranch » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:10 pm

I love a good red!
Hey, here is our first embryo out of Simmi Valley Zsa Zsa and Upperclass.... we like her so far!


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Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:20 pm

NICE!! What did you name her? Don't know if you heard the story on ZsaZsa. Kyle Conley came to NY & judged the NYSF. He used ZsaZsa for Calf Champion and used her all the way to Supreme of the show. Then in the picture taking, asked if she was for sale. His dad bought her & later put her in the Hartman Sale. Really nice to see her genetics getting out & around. I don't have any of her cow family left.
Edit: Thanks for sharing the picture!!!
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Re: Odds were 25%

Postby Nesikep » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:39 pm

The joys of hetrozygozity! I like the reds as well :)
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Re: Odds were 25%

Postby angus9259 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:10 am

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:Here's an embryo heifer out of a black dam & black sire. Odds were 25% to be red. The cow is her recipient dam.

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Nice. Sure looks like a big calf - is that the camera angle? What was the birth weight?
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Re: Odds were 25%

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:52 am

Yes, she was 106# at 12 hours old. Much more impressive than the 70 & 74# twins!! LOL She's 1/2 a calf bigger. Shock Force is not known as a super CE bull, and this cow likes to incubate her babies longer. Birth was 5 days late (expected a bull - great surprise!)
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Re: Odds were 25%

Postby Bright Raven » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:57 am

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:Yes, she was 106# at 12 hours old. Much more impressive than the 70 & 74# twins!! LOL She's 1/2 a calf bigger. Shock Force is not known as a super CE bull, and this cow likes to incubate her babies longer. Birth was 5 days late (expected a bull - great surprise!)


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Re: Odds were 25%

Postby True Grit Farms » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:28 am

Bright Raven wrote:
Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:Yes, she was 106# at 12 hours old. Much more impressive than the 70 & 74# twins!! LOL She's 1/2 a calf bigger. Shock Force is not known as a super CE bull, and this cow likes to incubate her babies longer. Birth was 5 days late (expected a bull - great surprise!)


Hide her. Quick hide her! True Grit is on his way to put a piece of lead behind her ear. In his Kingdom, By Order Of Vince The Terrible no calf over 80 pounds is allowed to live.


There's a big difference between a 100 lb heifer and a 100 lb bull. The only downside to a 100 lb heifer is the feed bill, and CE on her future bull calves. There's a big difference in what works for a commercial operation and a registered - show herd.
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Re: Odds were 25%

Postby dun » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:28 am

In 15 calves, Granny (black angus) only had 2 red calves. She was always bred to a red bull, either Hereford, Red Angus or red Fleckvieh.
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Re: Odds were 25%

Postby Nesikep » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:06 pm

I don't see what the birthweight of a calf has to do with her feed bill later in life.. it's not said she eats any more than a light BW calf
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