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Weaning some heifers early

Postby FlyingLSimmentals » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:29 pm

Usually wait until they are 6 months old or a little more. Having a few come in heat early as young as 4 1/2 months. Decided if your gonna cycle that young you're old enough to wean. I think they're some nice ones, hopefully I'll get some pics of them later. I haven't been very active here lately sorry been sick and very busy.
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Re: Weaning some heifers early

Postby 1982vett » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:24 pm

:2cents: Not sure cycling is an adequate reason to wean......
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Re: Weaning some heifers early

Postby FlyingLSimmentals » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:27 pm

Got them pretty close to 6 months before I actually put them up in wean pen. Had two that got penetrated that I had to get some meds for. Had some new fencing put in so didn't have location to separate these young heifers and dams from bull & some young bulls. Fencing Crew have about got all the new tensile fence up now so it should get easier.
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Re: Weaning some heifers early

Postby Nesikep » Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:51 pm

I usually take the heifers I want to keep as replacements away from the bull, but leave them with momma for a while longer... Depends on their size too, if they're massive at 200 days then no problem, they get weaned, if they were a little later or just a little smaller, I'll leave them on a little longer.
Good feed after weaning is the biggie of course
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Re: Weaning some heifers early

Postby Stocker Steve » Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:55 am

Have pulled the bulls and weaned heifers at 10 months. I think this is the lowest cost approach.
Have also weaned the heifers at 6 months and left the bulls out.
Kinda depends on numbers and breeding. Simis cycle early.
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Re: Weaning some heifers early

Postby Cucumber35 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:30 pm

I have a few that are well past 6 months closer to 7 or even 8. Bull is still out. Figure when I wean them they will get a shot of lute.
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Re: Weaning some heifers early

Postby Brute 23 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:42 am

Thats a PIA having them cycle that early.

My potential replacements are still out with the mommas. The oldest are Jan calves. I'll catch them this month. They wean so much easier and develope better if they are left out longer. Even when I wean them they will be mixed with young bulls until first of next year.
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Re: Weaning some heifers early

Postby talltimber » Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:39 pm

No it's not a pia. It's early development. So you are not hoping they are cycling by the time they are as big as their momma
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Re: Weaning some heifers early

Postby Brute 23 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:36 pm

talltimber wrote:No it's not a pia. It's early development. So you are not hoping they are cycling by the time they are as big as their momma


Trying to juggle getting calves away from bulls at 4-6 months old is excessive and adding unnecessary cost.

Why would you be waiting for a heifer to cycle? I can't even imagine a scenario where that is an issue.
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Re: Weaning some heifers early

Postby talltimber » Sun Oct 08, 2017 1:57 pm

No juggle. Not an issue. Leaving heifers on for ten months to grow them is excessive
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Re: Weaning some heifers early

Postby Brute 23 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:03 pm

talltimber wrote:No juggle. Not an issue. Leaving heifers on for ten months to grow them is excessive


Ya... leaving them to put on pounds at no extra cost to you is a horrible business model... ok :lol2:
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Re: Weaning some heifers early

Postby talltimber » Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:07 pm

Not breeding til they are 18-30 months? seems to not be one either?
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Re: Weaning some heifers early

Postby Brute 23 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 3:08 pm

talltimber wrote:Not breeding til they are 18-30 months? seems to not be one either?


30 months? Don't know of any one who breeds at 30 months.

Just because an animal can breed (is cycling) doesn't mean it should.

I don't buy the breed them early deal because those people buy heifer bulls, have higher calving problems, and wean smaller calves that first go round. Id rather wait 6 months, throw them out with the regular bull, and wean a full size calf.

IF you make any money breeding them 6 mo earlier, the peanuts are not worth the risk.
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Re: Weaning some heifers early

Postby talltimber » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:32 pm

You are not gonna breed one that's not cycling. Twenty four months for a heifer to cycle? I don't breed that young, but I could have two before yours calve once, easy, with the right bull the first time. You're not saying the one calf will bring more than the two now, talking about peanuts or something?
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1. calve at 22 mo and again at 34 or
2. calve the first time at 32-36
Heifer bull yes, more problems? not necessarily.

I am guessing you run a bull with yours year round? The reason I ask is that apparently it's tough to keep your type cattle on a 12 mo schedule. I am thinking since you keep heifers on them for ten months that may be the case? Not the cause of not staying on a 12 mo schedule, but the reason why it's not a big deal to leave heifers on them so long, because they are more like on a 13-14 mo schedule?
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Re: Weaning some heifers early

Postby Brute 23 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:00 pm

talltimber wrote:You are not gonna breed one thats not cycling. Twenty four months for a heifer to cycle? I don't, but you can have two before she calves once, easy, with the right bull the first time. You gonna say the one will bring more than the two now?
calve at 22 mo and again at 34 or
calve the first time at 32-36
Heifer bull yes, more problems? not necessarily.
I am guessing you run a bull with them year round? The reason I ask is that apparently it's tough to keep your type cattle on a 12 mo schedule. I am thinking since you keep heifers on them for ten months that may be the case? Not the cause, but the reason why it's not a big deal to leave heifers on them so long?


I'm sorry. I have no clue what you saying. Good luck :tiphat:
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