Ugly heifer, great cow family..

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Ugly heifer, great cow family..

Postby Lazy M » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:11 pm

Sorted through our calves to pick out the heifers to retain yesterday. We were making our last cut and I am still kind of stuck on one. This one particular heifer is clearly not one of my best. Nothing structurally wrong with her, but she is pretty plain and I clearly have ones that look better than her that I sorted out. However, her dam, grand dam, and great grand dam are all still in the herd and have been excellent cows..always one of the first to calve, raise bigger than average calves, and have great udders and dispositions.
What do you think; would you hold a heifer based mainly on family history or just go with a better looking individual?
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Re: Ugly heifer, great cow family..

Postby kenny thomas » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:13 pm

Hard to beat good cow history. I would try her.
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Postby gcreekrch » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:19 pm

Like nearly always begets like. Pretty is as pretty does.
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Re: Ugly heifer, great cow family..

Postby Ky hills » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:29 pm

If it were me, and knowing the positive history of the cow line, I would keep her. She could change and mature into a better looking individual. Not exactly the same comparison but there was a certain Charolais bull that was said to not have been much to look at but he was highly regarded as a sire of really good productive females.
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Postby dun » Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:39 pm

Keep her. Some years ago we had a heifer that the vet said he hoped we wouldn;t keep. She just didn;t look right to him. The next year at preg check time he had his arm up one heifer and had commented on what a great looking "power cow" she was. Then he asked whatever happened to the ugly one. When I told him it was the one he was palpating he couldn;t believe it. Turns out that the one cow has supplied 2 herd bulls and 5 replacement heifers. She's still going strong and due to calf next month.
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Re: Ugly heifer, great cow family..

Postby TCRanch » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:32 am

Erma was butt ugly! I'm talking small ears, nappy coat, funky looking eyes, short, fat . . . woof! But one of the best cows I ever had: always one of the first to calve, docile, great mama, great udder, etc. Retained every heifer she ever gave me and they always have the highest pelvic measurements and have carried on her lineage - except for her looks because most of them are actually quite pretty. I'd definitely keep her. You can always sell her later if she doesn't fulfill your expectations.
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Re: Ugly heifer, great cow family..

Postby MRRherefords » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:50 am

I would keep her. we bought a recip cow. Super ugly. Did a heck of a job with the calf she raised. Liked her so much kept her a continue to breed her naturally.
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Re: Ugly heifer, great cow family..

Postby ALACOWMAN » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:55 pm

Lazy M wrote:Sorted through our calves to pick out the heifers to retain yesterday. We were making our last cut and I am still kind of stuck on one. This one particular heifer is clearly not one of my best. Nothing structurally wrong with her, but she is pretty plain and I clearly have ones that look better than her that I sorted out. However, her dam, grand dam, and great grand dam are all still in the herd and have been excellent cows..always one of the first to calve, raise bigger than average calves, and have great udders and dispositions.
What do you think; would you hold a heifer based mainly on family history or just go with a better looking individual?
not anymore,, though she could come from a great cow line,, there's a sire involved ...and sometimes no matter how good those cows are, those matings don't click...I've been disappointed to many times,,and then get surprised by one of the lower end cows with a dandy , bred to the same bull...
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Re: Ugly heifer, great cow family..

Postby Waterway65 » Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:44 pm

Keep extra heifer until next year. You can always sell a extra but you can't get one back.
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Re: Ugly heifer, great cow family..

Postby gizmom » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:45 pm

I would hate to get rid a heifer out of a top cow family. I don’t care if she is ugly if she is bringing in calves on the top end and doing it consistently her heifer is going to get an opportunity to stay on the farm. We just put some eggs in out of an ugly cow. We flushed her at 13 years of age she produced over 30 eggs. Two of her daughters have been designated as pathfinders. She might not have been a pretty cow but I wouldn’t be unhappy with a pasture full of them if they did the job as well as she did.

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Re: Ugly heifer, great cow family..

Postby lithuanian farmer » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:18 am

It might work or it might not. Just recently have kept one heifer, which I didn't like, but she has a great dam, good half sisters, so tried. She is doing the worst with her first calf from the whole group. On the contrary, a couple years ago left one pretty ugly heifer from a good dam, and the daughters she produced so far are one of the best looking.
As it was mentioned earlier, I'd keep an extra heifer if possible just in case.
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Re: Ugly heifer, great cow family..

Postby Ebenezer » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:23 am

Keep her. The maternal side trumps the sire used unless you used an extreme oddball bull. Same sire as the other heifers you are keeping - no brainer- keep her.
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Re: Ugly heifer, great cow family..

Postby ALACOWMAN » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:28 am

Don't Take but one breeding to screw up a lifetime. Bad feet, udders, stucture ,longevity....
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