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Re: Stick-on heat detection patches

Postby slick4591 » Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:13 pm

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I'm not sure I'm human enough for the warming next to the skin lark.

Yeah, I stick them under my bra. If I don't have a bra on that day, they don't stick so good. :cowboy:


I don't. :lol: I use the truck's defroster.
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Re: Stick-on heat detection patches

Postby regolith » Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:23 am

slick4591 wrote:
branguscowgirl wrote:
I'm not sure I'm human enough for the warming next to the skin lark.

Yeah, I stick them under my bra. If I don't have a bra on that day, they don't stick so good. :cowboy:


I don't. :lol: I use the truck's defroster.


You're missing out on all the useful things a bra can do for you... :lol:
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Re: Stick-on heat detection patches

Postby slick4591 » Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:33 am

regolith wrote:You're missing out on all the useful things a bra can do for you... :lol:


:lol:
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Re: Stick-on heat detection patches

Postby branguscowgirl » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:17 pm

slick4591 wrote:
regolith wrote:You're missing out on all the useful things a bra can do for you... :lol:


:lol:

This is so true......Can be used as a handy tourniquet, halter, warmer, muzzle, ect.. The uses are endless! :lol:
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Re: Stick-on heat detection patches

Postby dun » Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:44 pm

branguscowgirl wrote:
slick4591 wrote:
regolith wrote:You're missing out on all the useful things a bra can do for you... :lol:


:lol:

This is so true......Can be used as a handy tourniquet, halter, warmer, muzzle, ect.. The uses are endless! :lol:

Manual dexterity training for teen age boys too..................
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Re: Stick-on heat detection patches

Postby branguscowgirl » Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:15 pm

Yeah that too Dun! ;-)
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Re: Stick-on heat detection patches

Postby M5farm » Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:29 pm

Well, I'm glad I finally read this thread being it went from heat patchs to over the shoulder boulder holders.
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Re: Stick-on heat detection patches

Postby branguscowgirl » Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:43 pm

M5farm wrote:Well, I'm glad I finally read this thread being it went from heat patchs to over the shoulder boulder holders.

When the girls start talkin, your ears will start popin! :lol:
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Re: Stick-on heat detection patches

Postby regolith » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:09 pm

They sure do show up from a distance:
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Didn't patch this one, was expecting her. Her half-sister above last cycled nearly 50 days ago.
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Re: Stick-on heat detection patches

Postby shortybreeder » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:09 pm

Has anyone tried these? http://estrotect.com/about-accubreed/ or have any idea what the cost is? I'd like to use it on my beef cows or in our dairy barn, but it seems like it could be expensive...
I'm also considering these: http://www.standingheat.com/ if anyone has experience with them?
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Re: Stick-on heat detection patches

Postby dun » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:16 pm

shortybreeder wrote:Has anyone tried these? http://estrotect.com/about-accubreed/ or have any idea what the cost is? I'd like to use it on my beef cows or in our dairy barn, but it seems like it could be expensive...
I'm also considering these: http://www.standingheat.com/ if anyone has experience with them?

I looked into them a couple of years ago. Yes they were pricey and they didn;t do well in hilly terrain unles the receiver was at the highest point with no obstructions between it and the cow
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Re: Stick-on heat detection patches

Postby regolith » Mon Jan 26, 2015 6:55 pm

Did some preg scans today as it hasn't rained for a month and the grass is drying up.
Was not at all happy with the result. By pulling out just the cows I had any reason at all to suspect were open, plus the ones with long mating intervals to have their dates confirmed, (20 cows) we found 10% of the herd open. Most of those were not cycling.
So far the heat detectors have only picked up one cow that wasn't also showing obvious signs - she was scanned open today, heat detector triggered about four days ago last mated six weeks plus four days ago.
Flies made the detectors not very useful - I wouldn't use them at this time of year again. Vet suggested the bubble type so *maybe* but the real bottom line for me is that the detectors didn't pick up anything I didn't see.

The usual 'fix' of applying a cidr to noncyclers wouldn't have changed anything as *all* of these cows cycled in a reasonable time after calving and had stopped showing heats since then. I don't think a bull would have done any better, but so far for two years 100% AI I haven't done too good.

Vet found one pregnancy that showed signs of heat at three weeks pregnant. Other than that, all that were in-calf were due to their latest possible date.

Still seven cows to check that were too soon to scan today. All but one of those have gone past 21 days without a heat, that last is at 18 days now.
The good news is that a bunch of big appetites are being shipped within the next couple days which will leave more grass for everyone else. 30% probability of heavy rain around a week from now...
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Re: Stick-on heat detection patches

Postby Amo » Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:37 pm

branguscowgirl wrote:
regolith wrote:Tried one couldn't get it to stick.
I'd hoped since it's late spring and they're all shedded out that wiping the coat clean would be enough... guess I'm going to have to get a brush to do it.

At least I've got one to AI this morning, showing proper behaviour yesterday evening.
It's been a few days since any have been on.

I don't even brush mine to put them on. They are still there after 2 mos........Did you buy the Estrotect brand? Some cheaper ones don't stick well. I have found that fly rub will cause you big problems!



Don't feel bad. All my buddies use them. Ive tried them too. Eye patch glue gets messy in a hurry.

I have tried all the tips & tricks everybody says. They can get them to stay on for months. Im lucky if I get 2 days! Follow the directions for how to place them on, plus where I AI has some low hanging tree branches. Between the tail rubbing off so not knowing if its starting to come in or just the tail, or the dang things just not being on there. I don't know if it got rode so hard that its not on, or if she went under a tree & ripped it off. The Kmars are always on there. Eye patch glue garuntes that is won't "rubb" off with the tree. Plus if your on foot, I think you can sort easier because the Kmars stick up higher.

Helped buddies that use Estrotects. They aren't much harder to see, easier to apply, & they stay on for them. I watch my cows pretty well during that time, but I got frustrated with the lottery ticket deal. If they go out of business, proably just give up AI or at least heat detection.
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Re: Stick-on heat detection patches

Postby Foxx » Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:35 pm

Mine don't stay.

I have kept the cows at the home pasture for the first month for several years. There are no trees. By April breeding here in CA, most of my cows are pretty slick haired, and I don't need to shave them. If they are really dirty, I do scrub the dirt off, but most are not since we usually are mostly over the rain and mud.

But I do breed for high docility. Now I don't know what is happening, but they are not there and no where to be found.

One day, in the pasture, I saw a 3 month old bull calf that was licking and pulling on a patch. The cow made absolutely no effort to move--she didn't even seem to mind his pulling and tugging on the patch. I saw the patch on the ground a half hour or so later, and the cow that he was "working on" had no patch. I did not keep this 3 month old calf so he isn't the one doing it. However, the patches keep disappearing. I'd say that about 25% of the patches disappear. I cannot tell you how frustrating it is. "Did the patch come off during breeding?" "Did a calf pull it off?" "Where IS it?" And frankly, I walk the pasture every day to check for heats so I doubt I'd miss the patches on the ground. I seldom find even one.

I suspect my bull has decided that he doesn't want me to know which cows he has bred, and he's pulling them off. I guess he is eating them too. I don't have any other semi-logical explanation for where they go.

This year, I'm considering using glue in addition to the patch. If I can glue it down good enough, it might make the cow get up as it is being pulled on. Maybe it won't get removed then.
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Re: Stick-on heat detection patches

Postby AI Tags » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:31 am

There is a great new heat detector, rather than the top layer scratching off, this one only rubs off from the mounting cow. You can find them on Amazon by searching for AI Tags. There is an AI Tags website to see information about them aitags.com
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