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Lick Wheel Liquid Feed

Postby xbredcattle » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:32 am

Does anyone utilize liquid feed through the winter as a substitute for rye grass?
If so, what luck have you had with it - advantage/disadvantages

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Re: Lick Wheel Liquid Feed

Postby Rafter S » Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:50 am

I use it through the winter as a supplement to poor quality hay. Been doing it for years, and I'm not aware of any disadvantages (other than the cost).
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Re: Lick Wheel Liquid Feed

Postby TN Cattle Man » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:20 am

Yes, we will occasionally use a liquid feed in the winter... We quit using the "Lick Wheel" style feeder around 5 years ago and here is why:
Lick Wheel tubs only allow for a few head to utilize at one time... when the dominant cows are finished and move on, most of the time all cows will follow. Not saying this will happen everywhere because it will depend on how many head you are trying to feed and how big of operation you have. The bottom line is that not all cows will utilize it.
We use the open tub style feeders (150 gallon) that will allow multiple cows to use at one time. I actually have a picture of 11 cows consuming at one time. This ensures that all cattle are using and allows you to better calculate pounds per head per day. The product that we use has a limiter in it so we can control consumption a little better and make sure that all cattle are using it (easy to figure if you know your max consumption rate per head per day and how many gallons you are using daily.
The disadvantages of liquid feed is that it can get messy. We purchase our liquid via truck load and store it in our own tanks... this means that we have to pump it into our mobile tanks and then pump it again into the feeders. This can be time consuming as well as messy at times (but it is a lot more economical than having someone come out and fill the tanks every couple of weeks or so). Bottom line, you have to put pen to paper and determine what makes since to your situation.
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Re: Lick Wheel Liquid Feed

Postby slick4591 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:23 pm

I'm using QLF lick tanks since 2010 along with ryegrass and good hay. My animals always maintain good condition thru winter even having a calf on them.
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Re: Lick Wheel Liquid Feed

Postby xbredcattle » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:45 pm

slick4591 wrote:I'm using QLF lick tanks since 2010 along with ryegrass and good hay. My animals always maintain good condition thru winter even having a calf on them.


Thanks - I'm unable to plant ryegrass on this new lease property

All my cows calve in November. I'll have plenty of quality hay but want additional protein source - think I'll go with the liquid feed !!!
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Re: Lick Wheel Liquid Feed

Postby TexasBred » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:43 pm

xbredcattle wrote:
slick4591 wrote:I'm using QLF lick tanks since 2010 along with ryegrass and good hay. My animals always maintain good condition thru winter even having a calf on them.


Thanks - I'm unable to plant ryegrass on this new lease property

All my cows calve in November. I'll have plenty of quality hay but want additional protein source - think I'll go with the liquid feed !!!

I'm assuming you'll have plenty of hay instead of the good nutritious rye grass. If so it should work fine for you. Put out one lick tank for every 25 cows and they should be fine. Most around here use the larger tanks (250 gallons I think) and each has 4 lick wheels. Move them everytime they get empty or you'll end up with the ground wallowed out around them and holding water and muck.
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Re: Lick Wheel Liquid Feed

Postby skyhightree1 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:13 pm

TexasBred wrote:
xbredcattle wrote:
slick4591 wrote:I'm using QLF lick tanks since 2010 along with ryegrass and good hay. My animals always maintain good condition thru winter even having a calf on them.


Thanks - I'm unable to plant ryegrass on this new lease property

All my cows calve in November. I'll have plenty of quality hay but want additional protein source - think I'll go with the liquid feed !!!

I'm assuming you'll have plenty of hay instead of the good nutritious rye grass. If so it should work fine for you. Put out one lick tank for every 25 cows and they should be fine. Most around here use the larger tanks (250 gallons I think) and each has 4 lick wheels. Move them everytime they get empty or you'll end up with the ground wallowed out around them and holding water and muck.


Exactly... However, I have been thinking of installing concrete feeding pads in a feeding area so that way I wont have to keep fixing pastures year after year you just have to make it big enough for them to stand completely on.
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Re: Lick Wheel Liquid Feed

Postby Rafter S » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:13 pm

When I get a big divot around one of mine I move it, and then feed a round bale or two on the spot. That generally fixes it.
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Postby dun » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:17 pm

skyhightree1 wrote:Exactly... However, I have been thinking of installing concrete feeding pads in a feeding area so that way I wont have to keep fixing pastures year after year you just have to make it big enough for them to stand completely on.

You will still end up with holes around the edges of the feed pads
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Postby skyhightree1 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:20 pm

dun wrote:
skyhightree1 wrote:Exactly... However, I have been thinking of installing concrete feeding pads in a feeding area so that way I wont have to keep fixing pastures year after year you just have to make it big enough for them to stand completely on.

You will still end up with holes around the edges of the feed pads


Why is that? I had the problem with the waterers until poured pads and no issues with those.
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Re: Lick Wheel Liquid Feed

Postby ddd75 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:05 am

neighbor had those going feeding distillers syrup. they just stood by them all day and night licking.. my tongue got sore looking at them.
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Re: Lick Wheel Liquid Feed

Postby slick4591 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:09 am

skyhightree1 wrote:
dun wrote:
skyhightree1 wrote:Exactly... However, I have been thinking of installing concrete feeding pads in a feeding area so that way I wont have to keep fixing pastures year after year you just have to make it big enough for them to stand completely on.

You will still end up with holes around the edges of the feed pads


Why is that? I had the problem with the waterers until poured pads and no issues with those.


Whenever it's muddy some of the mud will stick to the cow's feet every time they leave the tank. You'll end up with a groove around the tank.
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Postby TexasBred » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:42 am

skyhightree1 wrote:
Exactly... However, I have been thinking of installing concrete feeding pads in a feeding area so that way I wont have to keep fixing pastures year after year you just have to make it big enough for them to stand completely on.

Sky its sort of strange but you can pour 5 acres of concrete and at the edge the constant coming and going will wear the ground out and you'll have a big drop off.
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Re: Lick Wheel Liquid Feed

Postby skyhightree1 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:29 am

TexasBred wrote:
skyhightree1 wrote:
Exactly... However, I have been thinking of installing concrete feeding pads in a feeding area so that way I wont have to keep fixing pastures year after year you just have to make it big enough for them to stand completely on.

Sky its sort of strange but you can pour 5 acres of concrete and at the edge the constant coming and going will wear the ground out and you'll have a big drop off.


That's strange maybe cause my place is sandy it doesn't do that been there some pads 10 years with anywhere from 30-70 cattle usually. I will take pics and hope it posts.
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Re: Lick Wheel Liquid Feed

Postby skyhightree1 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:30 am

slick4591 wrote:
skyhightree1 wrote:
dun wrote:You will still end up with holes around the edges of the feed pads


Why is that? I had the problem with the waterers until poured pads and no issues with those.


Whenever it's muddy some of the mud will stick to the cow's feet every time they leave the tank. You'll end up with a groove around the tank.


Hasn't happened yet
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