Another mastitis question

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Re: Another mastitis question

Postby GMN » Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:00 pm

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milkmaid wrote:And gent has a 18-24 MONTH slaughter withdrawal when given IM or SC.......

If you're going to go off label, at least use something with a reasonable withdrawal time. Baytril IMM is off label too, but it will be cleared from the system in about 7 days.


This was given in the teat, not IM or SC. We held them until the milk tested negative using the Charm Test.


It shouldn't have tested positive in the first place... those tests aren't designed to pick up on off label drugs. Technically you could load a cow full of Pirsue, Banamine, gentamycin, Baytril, Predef, Salix, and some others... and the creamery would never detect it. For the most part, they only test for the penicillins and some tetracyclines.


The delvo P test does pick up Pirsue and any other drug except the Cloxacillens, and you can bet the Plant has even better tests than the home tests. No way would you ever put a cow in the tank treated with Pirsue, gentamycin or any other drug, unless you want to buy the whole tanker $$$

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Re: Another mastitis question

Postby TexasBred » Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:02 pm

Gail...absolutely. Most of the plants in Texas use the Charm test unless they've changed. That rascal will detect a bottle of antibiotics in the other room.
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Re: Another mastitis question

Postby Hunny Do Ranch » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:09 pm

Well the heat is gone and she seems much more comfortable. The only thing is that when I milk her out it looks like water. Does that mean that the quarter is gone?
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Re: Another mastitis question

Postby milkmaid » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:52 pm

Hunny Do Ranch wrote:Well the heat is gone and she seems much more comfortable. The only thing is that when I milk her out it looks like water. Does that mean that the quarter is gone?


99% probability it is.
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Re: Another mastitis question

Postby milkmaid » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:57 pm

TexasBred wrote:She will usually need a follow up dose as well. I'll stick with Quartermaster if I need it. ;-) And do make it a habit to test EVERY cow rather than those questionable.


I brought up Twin Penn and Penn G to use as examples of withdrawal times, not because I recommend them for treatment. In fact, I very rarely use them for mastitis, and never without an IMM drug in combo.

Do you make a habit of testing fresh heifers?
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Re: Another mastitis question

Postby GMN » Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:18 am

Hunny Do Ranch wrote:Well the heat is gone and she seems much more comfortable. The only thing is that when I milk her out it looks like water. Does that mean that the quarter is gone?


It could mean that but it could also mean that she has more than just a quarter infection, maybe acute mastitis, where IV drugs would be called for. Usually around here when they flare up, when they are milking, they don't generally lose that quarter, if treated properly,could be a sign of something worse going on.

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Re: Another mastitis question

Postby TexasBred » Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:47 am

milkmaid wrote:
TexasBred wrote:She will usually need a follow up dose as well. I'll stick with Quartermaster if I need it. ;-) And do make it a habit to test EVERY cow rather than those questionable.


I brought up Twin Penn and Penn G to use as examples of withdrawal times, not because I recommend them for treatment. In fact, I very rarely use them for mastitis, and never without an IMM drug in combo.

Do you make a habit of testing fresh heifers?


We tested everthing before it went into the milk string. We milked 2500 cows. It was easier to draw samples on and test everything that was fresh than to look up records and determine if a cow was a fresh heifer. Even got some false positives at times and they were always held out another day and retested to be certain.
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Re: Another mastitis question

Postby TexasBred » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:00 am

GMN wrote:
Hunny Do Ranch wrote:Well the heat is gone and she seems much more comfortable. The only thing is that when I milk her out it looks like water. Does that mean that the quarter is gone?


It could mean that but it could also mean that she has more than just a quarter infection, maybe acute mastitis, where IV drugs would be called for. Usually around here when they flare up, when they are milking, they don't generally lose that quarter, if treated properly,could be a sign of something worse going on.

Gail


Gail sounds like acute and what I would consider incurrable mastitis. You can treat it and it will turn white again but skip one day and you have watery fluid. I just never had any luck with it.
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