4-H Dairy Project

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Re: 4-H Dairy Project

Postby cow pollinater » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:23 pm

I was part of a study once where we bred jerseys and holstiens to different breeds and recorded the calving ease. Jerseys crank them out and that's all there is to it. :D We finally put holstien embroys into jerseys and jersey embroys into holstiens and got similar results.
ILH, sorry for my part in the degredation of your thread. I'm happy for your daughter. :D
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Re: 4-H Dairy Project

Postby TexasBred » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:11 pm

Massey135 wrote:I'd love to have some. If you'll notice I commented on her Brahma/jersey cow.

I know enough about cattle to know jersey have the smallest pelvic area of any modern breed. As low of bw as Jerseys have, they're only half the equation. Again, with all this talk about huge brahman bws, I'm still in amazement she was able to have a live calf. Must have been a phenomenon :roll:

Where did you get off rambling bout red brangus?

Typo.....meant Brahman....crossed with jerseys...awesome cattle...long, slender, fast growing and those little jerseys spit'em out like watermelon seed. It is a phenomenon...an awesome phenomenon. Ought to see a pasture full of them. The make those short horns look like red healer dogs. :mrgreen:
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Re: 4-H Dairy Project

Postby TexasBred » Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:13 pm

Massey135 wrote:Image

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Here's a pic of those two the first week of Aug. They turned out nicely. Both due Oct 15th.

Sorry stud duck...those are not the same cows....not even photoshop will make that many changes.
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Re: 4-H Dairy Project

Postby I luv herfrds » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:02 pm

Hey Massey get the h*ll off my thread!!!

Did NOT ask YOUR opinion and everything was fine until your ignorant butt came into an issue you proved once again that you know nothing about.

As for the owners they are what the Canadian I met called show jockeys. Do you really think they were going to give this girl a "good" one to beat their daughter?

Shows YOU KNOW NOTHING YOU TROLL!

Now get off my Thread!
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Re: 4-H Dairy Project

Postby Massey135 » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:08 am

:Lol: Your thread huh :lol: I'd loved to have seen your face when you were writing that :lol:
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Re: 4-H Dairy Project

Postby I luv herfrds » Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:24 am

Yeah MY thread you pos pita!
I started it.

Guess you can't read and YOU are the one that changed the subject NOT everyone else who was posting on it you trouble making TROLL!
Just shows everyone you need to pull your pants up because you are showing your azz again!
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Re: 4-H Dairy Project

Postby NVJersey » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:46 pm

I luv herfrds wrote:NV the judge we had also judged dairy in the past. At the judges meeting my daughter asked him about the clothing and the walking backwards. He told her yes she had to wear white and walk backwards. The judge was impressed with her going to do all those little details.

Found a video on youtube that showed we should have clipped her at least 3 weeks before but since we did not know this until 2 days before the fair we just left her alone.

Now my daughter had signed up for a dairy project at the start of the 4-H year. Did your son do that too?


He signed up for Dairy at the very beginning of the 4-H year (October). He signed up last year, but our deal on the Dexter cow fell through.
I'm gonna clip Sunny up tonight, I knew to clip before the show from my years of horse shows. Gotta give that trimmed hair time to blend in and make sure it lays down nicely. She'll only need a little bit, like her tail, a few long hairs on her belly. She'll get her legs and hooves cleaned up again the day before the show, and hopefully spot cleaning will be a minimum the morning of.

Our show day (Friday the 31st) will start with the cow classes at 7:30. He's entered in 3.
We're mixed in with the Beef classes because they won't make a new class without a minimum of 3 participants. So either he'll be judged Dairy just mixed in with the Beef heifers/calves and ribbon accordingly or he'll take the bottom of the class due to being Dairy but he'll get the show experience. Doesn't really matter, Sunny is such a sweetheart that he'll get good experience and can show an onery Beef heifer next year (Black angus and Hereford rule the pen there, with the occasional Charolais). He won't be using a show stick.
I'm gonna braid her tail swatch tonight and bag it up to stay clean for show day. Then just a little spray and teasing and it'll be Beau-ti-ful!
Poultry and Rabbit classes start at 8 am the same day, so we'll jumping from ring to ring, class to class, species to species. No time to change, so he'll be in regular Official 4-H dress. New blue jeans, white shirt, 4-H tie. So be it.
I'll look for white jeans as a just in case, but thus far they were a suggestion ("If you go on to show in bigger venues he'll need the white pants. It would be neat to see here if you can find them") The walking backwards and getting her to walk slow (hesitate between steps) he's been practicing. We'll see how that goes on show day with lil April!
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Re: 4-H Dairy Project

Postby NVJersey » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:55 pm

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... Son is going to use her for the Beef (ie cattle) Showmanship...


To me, that would mean that he would be showing the heifer as if she were a beef breed.



He's in the Beef showmanship class because we don't have a Dairy showmanship class. They aren't just called "cattle classes" here they are "Beef Classes". Because Beef has been the only type of Cattle shown around here in a LOOONNNNGGG time.
DS will be showing her as a Dairy cow, just entered in the Beef class because that's what we have.
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Re: 4-H Dairy Project

Postby NVJersey » Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:08 pm

Tell your DD congrats on her show success!! And what a darling lil calf she has! :clap: :clap: We don't do pre-ring interviews at our fair/livestock show. Way to go on your DD acing hers!!

DS MAY get asked a few questions IN the showmanship ring, so we are prepping for that. He will with the small animals' showmanship (poultry and rabbit).

I luv herfrds wrote:Found out that since no one has done dairy for so long there was no sponsor for a belt buckle or trophy. Talked to a friend of mine and she suggested that we just have one made up for her for this year. Looking at sponsoring a dairy buckle each year. Hope that gets more kids interested in dairy.


We had the same issue with sponsors the first year the horse judging got back on its feet. Boy has it grown sense! Good luck with your 4-H County's Dairy cow growth next year!
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Re: 4-H Dairy Project

Postby chippie » Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:16 pm

We show horses also (aqha & apha).
Don't clip the legs like a horse, especially around the top of the hoof. You don't want her switch too full. You can bang yhe bottom to square it off. Do not put any hoof polish on her hooves. Sorry this post is chopped up. I'm using (fighting) a phone.

I coach our county's horse judging team. Judging is a great thing.
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Re: 4-H Dairy Project

Postby NVJersey » Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:02 am

Thankx for the tips, chippie. There's no fetlock hair to be trimmed on her legs. Mainly I tidied up the few long hairs around her udder and under belly, and her tail. I doubt these bands will hold more than a day or two, I might look at squaring off her tail switch. Wonder if I should do the same for April, the calf.
No black hoof polish for the Jerseys? Good think I hadn't bought it yet. What about clear?

I am in the process of rebuilding the County horse judging team, this was year 2. It was my passion,focus,drive. I competed in Regionals in 4-H, the first team Nevada has ever sent to the Denver Stock Show (an experience I'll never forget), and National Horse Judging and Dairy Judging for FFA. I was EXTREMELY disappointed to discover that County Horse Judging was non existent when DS joined. So now I teach/coach classes and organize the competition. I made sure there was a horse show for the kids this year too, even tho DS ended up not showing. Horses are my passion, and Jerseys are becoming a close second. :D

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Re: 4-H Dairy Project

Postby chippie » Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:34 am

Cool beans! One thing that I like about horses and 4-H is that when the youth ages out, he or she can still be active at shows and other events with their horses. It isn't like so many kids who show cattle that just hang up their boots when graduate high school. Two of our daughters took their horses to college with them. We have 5 kids, 4 showed horses in
4-H, 4 judged and all 5 showed livestock projects (scramble heifers, steers, goats, lambs, poultry and pigs).

No hoof polish for cattle. Cattle are shown with clean hooves, no oil, no nothing.
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Re: 4-H Dairy Project

Postby I luv herfrds » Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:20 pm

NV they put my daughter also in with the breds because there was just her in the dairy class. Just figured it was better to just show like she was at a dairy show. I was told about one girl that showed dairy in 4-H for years but got beat by another showman beacause he wore the white pants and shirt where she did not.

Hope it all goes well for you and your son.

I know I still have so much to learn.
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Re: 4-H Dairy Project

Postby I luv herfrds » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:52 pm

Went to the new clubs meeting tonight.
Hubby and I had a belt buckle made for her since she won both the dairy breed and showmanship class. There was no sponsor for this class.
Well she got it presented to her tonight!
She loved it!
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Re: 4-H Dairy Project

Postby NVJersey » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:17 pm

It's been a busy few weeks. DS did great with the cow calf pair at fair. He had a hard time being "different" tho, as they always set him and his cow apart from the beef breeds. He took a bit to let it sink in that he wasn't LAST, he was being set off for a different class within the class. He took home a few blues, and Two reserves! He had fun and we were the most popular stall in the barn, he loved that part.
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