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Thermal image scopes?

Postby kenny thomas » Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:36 pm

Who has one? Good and bad things to look for. To use to shoot coyotes but also just to see what's out there at night. Looking for something $2,000 or less.
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Re: Thermal image scopes?

Postby jltrent » Sat Dec 24, 2016 4:09 am

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Re: Thermal image scopes?

Postby kenny thomas » Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:28 pm

Way too much info on them that I don't understand. Gotta check out a couple before I get serious about a purchase.
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Postby Brute 23 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 4:23 am

That is some good info above. Ill throw kind of my basic opinion in.

If at all possible don't even mess with Gen 1 stuff. I'd rather use a red spot light and a good scope.

The Gen 2+ 6x for $1500 above is a great bang for the buck scope and if you play to your strengths you will be more than happy with it. Like it says, you are good for a solid 100-150 yds.

If you are a techy person, like posting videos, messing with gadgets, and have the money to burn go with the the Gen 3 and thermal stuff. That stuff is $3500, $5K... $8K. Its another level. It is awesome.

At the end of the day I do not believe if you go out with $5K thermal and I go out $1500 Gen 2+ that you will come in with a higher kill count because of the extra dollars spent.

I have an NV750 and for killing hogs and coyotes its more than plenty. The majority of my kills are between 50-75 yds. I have not seen a practical need to take 200+ yd shots with the NV... you can draw the animals in much closer. For just scanning purposes I can probably see 300-500yrs... again... more than adequate.

Im not knocking $8K scopes... I would have one in a heart beat if I could. :nod: Its just not necessary to get in the game IMO. You can be very effective for $600-$1500.

Plus, like every thing else... there are always "the extras". You buy a $1500 NV scope. Then you need a new gun because yours is too heavy, suppressor to be more quiet, shooting sticks, a monocular because scanning with the gun sucks, so on... and so on... :lol2: Next thing you know... Poof! $8K If you start our spending $8K on thermal your will have $15K tied up before its all said and done.

... again, just my opinion. :tiphat:
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Re: Thermal image scopes?

Postby Nesikep » Sun Dec 25, 2016 3:15 pm

sounds like you need a lot of yote hides to pay for that!
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Re: Thermal image scopes?

Postby kenny thomas » Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:42 pm

Nesikep wrote:sounds like you need a lot of yote hides to pay for that!

Never make it part for its self. Most of my toys don't.
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Postby Nesikep » Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:50 pm

Aahh, I mistook it for a tool.. I think it would be incredibly fun to have one... perhaps in a decade or two I will
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Postby dieselbeef » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:21 am

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Re: Thermal image scopes?

Postby Caustic Burno » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:31 am

Brute I use a stream light game spotter light for 150 bucks. They will stand for that green light like it is not even there.
Very concentrated green beam that looks like daylight out to 150 or better.
Now you don't look as cool or get to play Seal Team 6 with it but the hogs can't tell the difference.
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Re: Thermal image scopes?

Postby Brute 23 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:59 pm

Caustic Burno wrote:Brute I use a stream light game spotter light for 150 bucks. They will stand for that green light like it is not even there.
Very concentrated green beam that looks like daylight out to 150 or better.
Now you don't look as cool or get to play Seal Team 6 with it but the hogs can't tell the difference.


No doubt. There are a lot of options out there.

That's kind of my point on this stuff. If you are killing 100 hogs a year with a green $150 light, you will kill 100 hogs with a $500 light, 100 with $1500 NV and 100 with $8000 thermal.

Same for fishing, you can catch just as many fish in a $10K boat as a $80K boat.

With that said, if you have the money is it nice to hunt with thermal or fish out of an $80K boat... you bet it is... is it necessary... no its not. Im all for buying unnecessary toys if you have the money. Just don't let some one else talk you in to "you have to have this or that" to get it done. :tiphat:
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Re: Thermal image scopes?

Postby lavacarancher » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:32 pm

Brute 23 wrote:
Caustic Burno wrote:Brute I use a stream light game spotter light for 150 bucks. They will stand for that green light like it is not even there.
Very concentrated green beam that looks like daylight out to 150 or better.
Now you don't look as cool or get to play Seal Team 6 with it but the hogs can't tell the difference.


No doubt. There are a lot of options out there.

That's kind of my point on this stuff. If you are killing 100 hogs a year with a green $150 light, you will kill 100 hogs with a $500 light, 100 with $1500 NV and 100 with $8000 thermal.

Same for fishing, you can catch just as many fish in a $10K boat as a $80K boat.

With that said, if you have the money is it nice to hunt with thermal or fish out of an $80K boat... you bet it is... is it necessary... no its not. Im all for buying unnecessary toys if you have the money. Just don't let some one else talk you in to "you have to have this or that" to get it done. :tiphat:



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Re: Thermal image scopes?

Postby Caustic Burno » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:54 pm

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Postby kenny thomas » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:43 pm

[quote="Brute 23"][quote="Caustic Burno"]Brute I use a stream light game spotter light for 150 bucks. They will stand for that green light like it is not even there.
Very concentrated green beam that looks like daylight out to 150 or better.

Brute23, I have been told that Yotes won't stand for the lights like hogs do. Is there anything to it?
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Postby Caustic Burno » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:27 am

Yotes are 50/50 in my experience I
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Re: Thermal image scopes?

Postby Brute 23 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:14 pm

kenny thomas wrote:
Brute 23 wrote:
Caustic Burno wrote:Brute I use a stream light game spotter light for 150 bucks. They will stand for that green light like it is not even there.
Very concentrated green beam that looks like daylight out to 150 or better.

Brute23, I have been told that Yotes won't stand for the lights like hogs do. Is there anything to it?


That is true. Yotes and hogs will learn lights if they are hunted enough. You have to be a little faster and more intentional with lights. You have a smaller window to take your shot.

With NV or thermal you can turn it on and watch the hogs or coyotes for an hour if you would like before you shoot.
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