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Bass fishing, and pond management.

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:15 pm
by True Grit Farms
I stocked my pond 12 years ago with bream and other sunfish, then the bass. I have more minnows and small bait fish then any pond I've ever fished. My deal is I catch 10+ bass every afternoon that I fish, but nothing over 3lbs pounds. I fish with rubber worms, Rapala lures and spinner baits. What lures do I need to use to catch big bass? And is there a chance that my pond management is the problem? I've never fished with a live bream but I'm thinking about trying that just to see if there's anything worth catching. I'm thinking about having these guy's come out and do a fish count, management plan for me.
http://www.owenandwilliams.com

Re: Bass fishing, and pond management.

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:56 pm
by M.Magis
There's a chance that the bass need thinned out. If there are too many they get stunted. Though with that many baitfish it seems unlikely.
But using live bait is usually the most sure way to catch larger pond bass, at least for me.

Re: Bass fishing, and pond management.

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:59 pm
by slick4591
Years ago I had a 25 gallon aquarium with the latest under gravel filters and what nots. After a few years I noticed my fish were not growing. I asked the local guru fish guy why and he told me that fish produces hormones and emits them in the water. Once the water becomes loaded to a point of hormones that tells the fish they have ran out of space and their body shuts down the growth process. I emptied the tank and started over. Took a while but I did notice the fish began growing again. It could be you are just overstocked even tho there's plenty of bait fish.

Re: Bass fishing, and pond management.

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:26 am
by dieselbeef
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before Irma we had mud...now we got tilapia....fishslayer catch fish in a puddle of pee I swear.
want me to send him over catch the big one for ya?

Re: Bass fishing, and pond management.

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:57 am
by True Grit Farms
dieselbeef wrote:Image


before Irma we had mud...now we got tilapia....fishslayer catch fish in a puddle of pee I swear.
want me to send him over catch the big one for ya?


It would be my privilege to let him catch a big bass and show me how it's done. While he's here he can kill some squirrels and deer to go along with the bass.

Re: Bass fishing, and pond management.

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:49 pm
by callmefence
True Grit Farms wrote:I stocked my pond 12 years ago with bream and other sunfish, then the bass. I have more minnows and small bait fish then any pond I've ever fished. My deal is I catch 10+ bass every afternoon that I fish, but nothing over 3lbs pounds. I fish with rubber worms, Rapala lures and spinner baits. What lures do I need to use to catch big bass? And is there a chance that my pond management is the problem? I've never fished with a live bream but I'm thinking about trying that just to see if there's anything worth catching. I'm thinking about having these guy's come out and do a fish count, management plan for me.
http://www.owenandwilliams.com


Grit a miller bobcat welder some rebar, lots of electrical tape and some redneck engineering and you can do your own fish count.
I accept no liability for death , injuries, or soiled pants.

Re: Bass fishing, and pond management.

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:13 pm
by Atimm693
How many fish do you take out every year? As mentioned, some regular thinning is good for a pond.

If the bass have real big heads and a long skinny body, they are stunted..

I've caught a couple that were over 5 lbs, one on a nightcrawler/jighead, the other on a Rapala.

Re: Bass fishing, and pond management.

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:49 pm
by bird dog
Are the bait fish always there or is this just something that recently happened? Using live bait will just allow you to catch your 10 fish quicker, I doubt it would trigger the bigger bass to bite. They get big for a reason.
Honestly I doubt you have anything much bigger unless your pond is real big and real deep. Like the others have said, it sounds over populated.

Re: Bass fishing, and pond management.

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:22 pm
by True Grit Farms
I have a few friends that come over and take a few buckets of fish out a year to eat. Otherwise it's all catch and release. I feed a Purina fish meal blend at about 5 lbs a day so the bream are fat as a tick. I think I'll just pay the biologists to come out and count and tell me what's wrong.

Re: Bass fishing, and pond management.

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:42 am
by M.Magis
When I want to catch a bigger bass for my boys to see, I take a 4" bluegill and hook it behind the dorsal. I use a hook only, no weight, and toss it maybe 10' off the bank. Then I use my rod to keep the bluegill swimming near the surface, they usually start swimming sideways and in circles, just like a wounded fish. You have to be ready, it rarely takes long and the bites are usually explosive.

Re: Bass fishing, and pond management.

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:59 am
by True Grit Farms
M.Magis wrote:When I want to catch a bigger bass for my boys to see, I take a 4" bluegill and hook it behind the dorsal. I use a hook only, no weight, and toss it maybe 10' off the bank. Then I use my rod to keep the bluegill swimming near the surface, they usually start swimming sideways and in circles, just like a wounded fish. You have to be ready, it rarely takes long and the bites are usually explosive.


I still have a 12' fiberglass pole just for that purpose. In Florida I'd catch large bass in the early spring while they were spawning using that method. I didn't want to use bait in my pond, but rules are made to be broken I guess. My thinking has always been any idiot can catch a fish using live bait, and dead bait isn't much harder.

Re: Bass fishing, and pond management.

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:05 pm
by TexasBred
True Grit Farms wrote:
M.Magis wrote:When I want to catch a bigger bass for my boys to see, I take a 4" bluegill and hook it behind the dorsal. I use a hook only, no weight, and toss it maybe 10' off the bank. Then I use my rod to keep the bluegill swimming near the surface, they usually start swimming sideways and in circles, just like a wounded fish. You have to be ready, it rarely takes long and the bites are usually explosive.


I still have a 12' fiberglass pole just for that purpose. In Florida I'd catch large bass in the early spring while they were spawning using that method. I didn't want to use bait in my pond, but rules are made to be broken I guess. My thinking has always been any idiot can catch a fish using live bait, and dead bait isn't much harder.

Been a while since I've done much bass fishing but all the "big boys" on TV bass fishing use to say if you want to catch big bass you gotta use big bait whether live or artificial.

Re: Bass fishing, and pond management.

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:44 pm
by Cross-7
I have a similar problem.
This past weekend we threw a buzzbait for the first time and caught some bigger fish, but as other have said probably overstocked

Re: Bass fishing, and pond management.

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:05 pm
by BobbyLummus1
3" live bream is a sure way , i hook through the eyes or lips and hook up better . this is like cheating . Finesse fishing with light shaky head jig heads on 3" plastics , wacky worms , drop shotting . I can come behind you and catch fish this way . Another sure way is topwater . try a small size whopper plopper in a natural color . Sink brush piles in areas that are convenient to fish and use the above tactics

Re: Bass fishing, and pond management.

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 10:13 pm
by True Grit Farms
BobbyLummus1 wrote:3" live bream is a sure way , i hook through the eyes or lips and hook up better . this is like cheating . Finesse fishing with light shaky head jig heads on 3" plastics , wacky worms , drop shotting . I can come behind you and catch fish this way . Another sure way is topwater . try a small size whopper plopper in a natural color . Sink brush piles in areas that are convenient to fish and use the above tactics


Thank you. I have concrete blocks sitting on pallets scattered throughout the pond, with geese or rings around them. I'm a big time believer in FADS.