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Re: Sky Found These

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:39 am
by Caustic Burno
skyhightree1 wrote:I use to use federal and Remington much shot and seems something has changed and quality has went downhill... The cheap Winchester shells shoot great and hard so I've been using them. This may be a good alternative brand you posted for 12 gauge too.


Look at the FPS anything 1200 to 1300 range is pretty good stuff.
Most of the magnum stuff is low velocity meant to get the hunter.

Here is an example of tons of this stuff is sold. It has more pellets and longer it must be better mentality.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/29364 ... s-box-of-5
Doesn't matter if it is 28 gauge or 10 maximum pressure is 13000 psi.
If you increase the payload you have to reduce the powder.
Again powder to shot is equal in all gauges increasing payload doesn't make a shotgun more effective.
It is about pattern a 28 ga is designed for a 3/4 oz load 20 for 7/8 16 for 1 and so on . Bigger doesn't make better
Drams of powder shot equivalent hasn't changed since back powder loading.

Re: Sky Found These

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:01 am
by skyhightree1
Caustic Burno wrote:
skyhightree1 wrote:I use to use federal and Remington much shot and seems something has changed and quality has went downhill... The cheap Winchester shells shoot great and hard so I've been using them. This may be a good alternative brand you posted for 12 gauge too.


Look at the FPS anything 1200 to 1300 range is pretty good stuff.
Most of the magnum stuff is low velocity meant to get the hunter.

Here is an example of tons of this stuff is sold. It has more pellets and longer it must be better mentality.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/29364 ... s-box-of-5
Doesn't matter if it is 28 gauge or 10 maximum pressure is 13000 psi.
If you increase the payload you have to reduce the powder.
Again powder to shot is equal in all gauges increasing payload doesn't make a shotgun more effective.
It is about pattern a 28 ga is designed for a 3/4 oz load 20 for 7/8 16 for 1 and so on . Bigger doesn't make better
Drams of powder shot equivalent hasn't changed since back powder loading.


Thanks I will tell you what I had some deer tote some #1 some distance blood everywhere. I couldn't belive it You ever had that happen?

Re: Sky Found These

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:14 am
by Caustic Burno
Sky I have shot them to doll rags and actually had to throw away both shoulders to having them drop in their tracks from one buckshot.
That's been with double aught as well.
I have a model 97 that I know that has killed over 200 with #1's.
It gets back to that pesky pattern and getting them in the boiler room.

Re: Sky Found These

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:29 pm
by skyhightree1
Caustic Burno wrote:Sky I have shot them to doll rags and actually had to throw away both shoulders to having them drop in their tracks from one buckshot.
That's been with double aught as well.
I have a model 97 that I know that has killed over 200 with #1's.
It gets back to that pesky pattern and getting them in the boiler room.


00 AND 000 Never have many issues but # 1 is a whole other story. I use to shoot Remington a lot and it mostly happened with those. I switched to federal but that white crap kept falling out a lot so then switched to Winchester. I am satisfied with the 00 never shot any #1's though.

Re: Sky Found These

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:39 pm
by Caustic Burno
Sky an ounce of shot is an ounce no matter the size.
That is 8 00 or 11 #1 a 00 is .34 cal #1 are .30 cal.
It all gets down how much of the ounce you put on the target.
Standard 12 gauge load is a 1 1/4 ounce.
http://www.hallowellco.com/shot_size_chart.htm

Re: Sky Found These

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:59 pm
by Caustic Burno
Sky some light reading

http://www.tbullock.com/bpsg.html

Re: Sky Found These

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:08 pm
by Caustic Burno
Here you go Sky 40 steps



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Re: Sky Found These

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:37 pm
by skyhightree1
Thanks CB That is a good pattern I'd be happy with that any day. HVe you ever shot #4?

Re: Sky Found These

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:14 pm
by Caustic Burno
skyhightree1 wrote:Thanks CB That is a good pattern I'd be happy with that any day. HVe you ever shot #4?


Back in the day when we were running with dogs. I have a Remington Model 11 12 gauge that loves them killed an old doe at 67
steps put 12 pellets in one side of the rib cage ten came out the other.

Re: Sky Found These

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:02 pm
by skyhightree1
Caustic Burno wrote:
skyhightree1 wrote:Thanks CB That is a good pattern I'd be happy with that any day. HVe you ever shot #4?


Back in the day when we were running with dogs. I have a Remington Model 11 12 gauge that loves them killed an old doe at 67
steps put 12 pellets in one side of the rib cage ten came out the other.


that's awesome these guns today you gotta get custom chokes and work done to the guns to get them to shoot worth a S... every one of my new guns has to go to the shop and get worked on my old 1100's out the box were awesome with 30" barrels

Re: Sky Found These

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:53 am
by Caustic Burno
Here you go sky waiting on the rooters this morning.


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Nothing but deer


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