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where's the carcass

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:16 pm
by ccr
Noticed some buzzards were in a field and after checking it out, found a trail of blood, intestines, 1 bone, and some white hair on the ground.

The neighbors said they seen a bobcat stalking a deer a few days ago. I'm thinking a bobcat killed a deer, but there aint no carcass left. I looked in about a 500' radius and did not find any parts of a carcass or signs of a carcass being dragged.

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intestine
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predator scatt
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Can you tell from these images if this looks like the remains of a deer, and what killed it?

Thanks

Re: where's the carcass

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:03 am
by Nesikep
Do you have mountain lion in the area? If so, and if you have trees, look up in the trees..

Re: where's the carcass

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:32 am
by ccr
No mountain lions in the area that I am aware of. Lot of coyotes.

only bone left
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track a couple of hundred yards away
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Re: where's the carcass

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:10 pm
by Chocolate Cow
From the Minnesota DNR site:
First, determine if the track is from a Canine (dog) or Feline (cat)
Canine tracks have definite claw marks, one lobe on the front of the heel pad, and 2 lobes on the rear of the heel pad. In contrast, Feline tracks rarely show claw marks, the front of the heel pad has 2 lobes, and the rear of the heel pad has 3 lobes. Canine tracks are typically rectangular in shape (longer than they are wide), while Feline tracks have more of a square or circular shape (length and width are even or track is wider than it is tall).

Your track shows claws which would make a person think canine. right?

Re: where's the carcass

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:02 pm
by callmefence
Somebody made a bad shot.
Coyote's and buzzards cleaned it up.

Re: where's the carcass

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:07 pm
by ccr
Chocolate Cow wrote:From the Minnesota DNR site:
First, determine if the track is from a Canine (dog) or Feline (cat)
Canine tracks have definite claw marks, one lobe on the front of the heel pad, and 2 lobes on the rear of the heel pad. In contrast, Feline tracks rarely show claw marks, the front of the heel pad has 2 lobes, and the rear of the heel pad has 3 lobes. Canine tracks are typically rectangular in shape (longer than they are wide), while Feline tracks have more of a square or circular shape (length and width are even or track is wider than it is tall).

Your track shows claws which would make a person think canine. right?


Right, I think the image of the track is canine, maybe coyote. That track was down by the stock tank away from where the intestines were found. There are other tracks closer that didn't appear to have claw marks. Thanks Chocolate Cow.

Maybe it wasn't a deer, but a rabbit, but I think there was to much blood to be a rabbit and the intestines looked bigger than what I think a rabbits gut would be. The only bone that I found yesterday is gone now. There are a lot of other small varmints around.

Re: where's the carcass

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:15 pm
by ccr
callmefence wrote:Somebody made a bad shot.
Coyote's and buzzards cleaned it up.


Thanks Fence, that's probably what happened. They clean up good.

Re: where's the carcass

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:59 pm
by Dave
The scatt picture looks like coyote. Bobcat droppings are shaped like a Tootsie Roll.

Re: where's the carcass

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:47 am
by Bright Raven
callmefence wrote:Somebody made a bad shot.
Coyote's and buzzards cleaned it up.


That is what I think. Even local dogs will get in on that.

Re: where's the carcass

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:28 am
by NolanCountyAG
Are you close to cowgirl8? She's over ran with mountain cougars!!

Re: where's the carcass

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:55 am
by BRYANT
maybe neighbor shot the deer and took it but put the blame on a bobcat. Varmints ate what was left after field dressing and neighbor's eating the rest ????? Just and idea ?????

Re: where's the carcass

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:07 pm
by ccr
NolanCountyAG wrote:Are you close to cowgirl8? She's over ran with mountain cougars!!


Not sure where Cowgirl8 is at. We are about 20 miles southwest of Fort Worth. I've looked for remains of the carcass and only found 3 small bones in the woods about 200 yards from the intestines.

Re: where's the carcass

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:20 pm
by ccr
BRYANT wrote:maybe neighbor shot the deer and took it but put the blame on a bobcat. Varmints ate what was left after field dressing and neighbor's eating the rest ????? Just and idea ?????


I set the trailcam up down by the creek. There are plenty of varmints around.

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Re: where's the carcass

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:43 pm
by BRYANT
ccr wrote:
BRYANT wrote:maybe neighbor shot the deer and took it but put the blame on a bobcat. Varmints ate what was left after field dressing and neighbor's eating the rest ????? Just and idea ?????


I set the trailcam up down by the creek. There are plenty of varmints around.

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none of them would eat everything, bones and all. mountain lions I am not all that familiar with. Sounds like some one shot it and field dressed it , may not have been neighbor but I bet its in a freezer someplace

Re: where's the carcass

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:41 pm
by hillbilly beef man
callmefence wrote:Somebody made a bad shot.
Coyote's and buzzards cleaned it up.


This would be my guess as well. A few years ago I found a 6 pointer dead in the Hayfield in front of the house that had been shot with a bow. It was already stiff and cold so I was afraid to keep the meat. It was almost dark, so I decided to bury it the next morning.

About an hour after dark I heard a coyote howling in the front field. Apparently he was ringing the dinner bell because after only a few minutes it sounded like he had been joined by a dozen of his friends. When I checked on the deer the next morning all that was left was a little hair.