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Re: college football

Postby Son of Butch » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:39 pm

bball wrote:States like Florida and Ohio have kids playing 15 games.

St. Xavier Ohio ranked #29 in the Nation won 2016 state championship 11-2
IMG Florida ranked #2 in nation won 2016 state championship 15-0
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Re: college football

Postby bball » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:46 pm

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Steubenville, OH class lV Ohio State champion 15-0
Class V champ Wheelersburg. 15-0.
Class VI Marion. 15-0.
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Re: college football

Postby TennesseeTuxedo » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:36 pm

Son of Butch wrote:6 states is not a majority in the USA and neither is 2 teams in each state.
Most all High Schools play fewer games than college teams which average 12.2 games.

I did not check all states, but the games played by state champions ranged from 10-14 with 13 average
Soldonota, Alaska state champion and rated #60 in the Nation 10-0
Pulaski Academy in Little Rock, Arkansas state champion 13-1 and rated #50 in the Nation
ranked # 933 in Nation - Smyrna, Delaware played 12 games finishing 12-0 as state champion
#123 Crystal Lake, Illinois 14-0

Eden Prairie Mn state champion 13-0 rated #72 in Nation.
Desoto, Texas 2016 1st state championship 12 games 10-2 and this year ranked 44th in Texas and 293 in nation.


Did you play D-1 football Butch? I did and would have eaten broken glass for a chance to win a title on the field and not be robbed by the polls.
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Re: college football

Postby bball » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:12 pm

Son of Butch wrote:6 states is not a majority in the USA and neither is 2 teams in each state.
Most all High Schools play fewer games than college teams which average 12.2 games.

I did not check all states, but the games played by state champions ranged from 10-14 with 13 average
Soldonota, Alaska state champion and rated #60 in the Nation 10-0
Pulaski Academy in Little Rock, Arkansas state champion 13-1 and rated #50 in the Nation
ranked # 933 in Nation - Smyrna, Delaware played 12 games finishing 12-0 as state champion
#123 Crystal Lake, Illinois 14-0

Eden Prairie Mn state champion 13-0 rated #72 in Nation.
Desoto, Texas 2016 1st state championship 12 games 10-2 and this year ranked 44th in Texas and 293 in nation.


2017 results; MaxPreps is your friend here.
The following lists just a brief example of how many games those schools playing for state championships will play.

IN class 1-5 14 games
OH class 1-6 15 games with class 2 playing 16 games
NM class 3-6 13 games
PA class 1-6 14 to 16 games
AL class 1-6 15 games, class 7 14 games
TN Div 1 class 1-6 14-16 games
NV Bishop Gorman played 15 games; 13-2, Natl rank 10
IL class 1-8 14-15 games
OK class 2-6A l & ll. 13-15 games.

Not to mention numbers from high school football powerhouse states like FL, TX, CA, GA, MS, MI, NY.

Better check your :bs: meter Butch. :D
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Re: college football

Postby TexasBred » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:39 am

bball wrote:
Son of Butch wrote:6 states is not a majority in the USA and neither is 2 teams in each state.
Most all High Schools play fewer games than college teams which average 12.2 games.

I did not check all states, but the games played by state champions ranged from 10-14 with 13 average
Soldonota, Alaska state champion and rated #60 in the Nation 10-0
Pulaski Academy in Little Rock, Arkansas state champion 13-1 and rated #50 in the Nation
ranked # 933 in Nation - Smyrna, Delaware played 12 games finishing 12-0 as state champion
#123 Crystal Lake, Illinois 14-0

Eden Prairie Mn state champion 13-0 rated #72 in Nation.
Desoto, Texas 2016 1st state championship 12 games 10-2 and this year ranked 44th in Texas and 293 in nation.


2017 results; MaxPreps is your friend here.
The following lists just a brief example of how many games those schools playing for state championships will play.

IN class 1-5 14 games
OH class 1-6 15 games with class 2 playing 16 games
NM class 3-6 13 games
PA class 1-6 14 to 16 games
AL class 1-6 15 games, class 7 14 games
TN Div 1 class 1-6 14-16 games
NV Bishop Gorman played 15 games; 13-2, Natl rank 10
IL class 1-8 14-15 games
OK class 2-6A l & ll. 13-15 games.

Not to mention numbers from high school football powerhouse states like FL, TX, CA, GA, MS, MI, NY.

Better check your :bs: meter Butch. :D


Are you saying something is wrong with Butch's ciphering?? No way. He's a ciphering fool. The man's mind is nothing but numbers, fractions, percentages, probabilities and yes..... :bs:
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Re: college football

Postby Son of Butch » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:31 am

LOL.... only as good as my resources.... and the fact remains most high school athletes play less than 12 games.
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Re: college football

Postby Son of Butch » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:34 am

What does it prove to have power house schools scheduling 3-4 games per season vs weak sisters not rated in the top 100?

Eliminate 2 of those games per season and expand national tournament to 16 teams.
Without the risk of increasing injury due to fatigue of extra long seasons.
Would also reduce risk of long term injuries to mismatched student athletes at smaller schools being fed to the wolves
just to increase revenue to pay for their women's bad-mitten team or whatever.


p.s. regarding injuries

Ryan Shazier mlb for Steelers injured his spine making a tackle in Monday night game and was transported to Cincinnati
Medical Center. He is reported to have some movement in his lower extremities and his doctors are expecting a lot of progress to continue to be made within the next 48 hours without any surgery.
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Re: college football

Postby ChrisB » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:17 pm

A problem with eliminating those David vs. Goliath games is that the smaller programs need the income from those games to keep their athletic departments afloat. The 8 team tournament would be ideal, but personally I like all the debate that goes into selecting teams for the 4 team tourney.
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Re: college football

Postby Bestoutwest » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:05 pm

ChrisB wrote:A problem with eliminating those David vs. Goliath games is that the smaller programs need the income from those games to keep their athletic departments afloat. The 8 team tournament would be ideal, but personally I like all the debate that goes into selecting teams for the 4 team tourney.


Is it so bad if some of those smaller schools lose their football team or their baseball team? I'd rather watch Alabama vs. Auburn all day long than Alabama vs. Mercer. What does it prove? We all know that Mercer sucks compared to Alabama. It's kind of like the big jock picking on the music kids, what good can come of it?
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Re: college football

Postby bball » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:09 pm

TexasBred wrote:
bball wrote:
Son of Butch wrote:6 states is not a majority in the USA and neither is 2 teams in each state.
Most all High Schools play fewer games than college teams which average 12.2 games.

I did not check all states, but the games played by state champions ranged from 10-14 with 13 average
Soldonota, Alaska state champion and rated #60 in the Nation 10-0
Pulaski Academy in Little Rock, Arkansas state champion 13-1 and rated #50 in the Nation
ranked # 933 in Nation - Smyrna, Delaware played 12 games finishing 12-0 as state champion
#123 Crystal Lake, Illinois 14-0

Eden Prairie Mn state champion 13-0 rated #72 in Nation.
Desoto, Texas 2016 1st state championship 12 games 10-2 and this year ranked 44th in Texas and 293 in nation.


2017 results; MaxPreps is your friend here.
The following lists just a brief example of how many games those schools playing for state championships will play.

IN class 1-5 14 games
OH class 1-6 15 games with class 2 playing 16 games
NM class 3-6 13 games
PA class 1-6 14 to 16 games
AL class 1-6 15 games, class 7 14 games
TN Div 1 class 1-6 14-16 games
NV Bishop Gorman played 15 games; 13-2, Natl rank 10
IL class 1-8 14-15 games
OK class 2-6A l & ll. 13-15 games.

Not to mention numbers from high school football powerhouse states like FL, TX, CA, GA, MS, MI, NY.

Better check your :bs: meter Butch. :D


Are you saying something is wrong with Butch's ciphering?? No way. He's a ciphering fool. The man's mind is nothing but numbers, fractions, percentages, probabilities and yes..... :bs:


No TB. I would never dream of questioning his ciphering prowess. The gentleman is a human abacus.
A. I should have known better than to even respond to him ;-)
B. I should have placed the words 'playing for chamionships' in bold.
As that was the statement that originally tripped the 'Butch BS o meter'.

I accept full responsibility on this one.






Side note: as much of my sense of humor does not translate across the web, I wish to clarify this was all in jest and not meant to disparage anyone.
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Re: college football

Postby True Grit Farms » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:15 pm

Bestoutwest wrote:
ChrisB wrote:A problem with eliminating those David vs. Goliath games is that the smaller programs need the income from those games to keep their athletic departments afloat. The 8 team tournament would be ideal, but personally I like all the debate that goes into selecting teams for the 4 team tourney.


Is it so bad if some of those smaller schools lose their football team or their baseball team? I'd rather watch Alabama vs. Auburn all day long than Alabama vs. Mercer. What does it prove? We all know that Mercer sucks compared to Alabama. It's kind of like the big jock picking on the music kids, what good can come of it?

A lot of kids get a education that they wouldn't or couldn't, because they can play football and baseball.
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Postby TexasBred » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:24 pm

Bestoutwest wrote:
ChrisB wrote:A problem with eliminating those David vs. Goliath games is that the smaller programs need the income from those games to keep their athletic departments afloat. The 8 team tournament would be ideal, but personally I like all the debate that goes into selecting teams for the 4 team tourney.


Is it so bad if some of those smaller schools lose their football team or their baseball team? I'd rather watch Alabama vs. Auburn all day long than Alabama vs. Mercer. What does it prove? We all know that Mercer sucks compared to Alabama. It's kind of like the big jock picking on the music kids, what good can come of it?

Mercer walked away with about a $2 million dollar paycheck plus 'bama picked up the tab for ALL their expenses which probably doubled their entire athletic budget.
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Re: college football

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True Grit Farms wrote:
Bestoutwest wrote:
ChrisB wrote:A problem with eliminating those David vs. Goliath games is that the smaller programs need the income from those games to keep their athletic departments afloat. The 8 team tournament would be ideal, but personally I like all the debate that goes into selecting teams for the 4 team tourney.


Is it so bad if some of those smaller schools lose their football team or their baseball team? I'd rather watch Alabama vs. Auburn all day long than Alabama vs. Mercer. What does it prove? We all know that Mercer sucks compared to Alabama. It's kind of like the big jock picking on the music kids, what good can come of it?

A lot of kids get a education that they wouldn't or couldn't, because they can play football and baseball.


I agree to some degree, but watching the "student" athletes at my university doodle in class and not do any of the homework, I wonder how they passed without protection from the administration. And what are we doing for them? What's funny is that many one here will rail against participation trophies, but what most athletes get when they go to college is a participation degree. They are no better off than they were before and the university has made millions off of them.
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Re: college football

Postby True Grit Farms » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:25 pm

Bestoutwest wrote:
True Grit Farms wrote:
Bestoutwest wrote:
Is it so bad if some of those smaller schools lose their football team or their baseball team? I'd rather watch Alabama vs. Auburn all day long than Alabama vs. Mercer. What does it prove? We all know that Mercer sucks compared to Alabama. It's kind of like the big jock picking on the music kids, what good can come of it?

A lot of kids get a education that they wouldn't or couldn't, because they can play football and baseball.


I agree to some degree, but watching the "student" athletes at my university doodle in class and not do any of the homework, I wonder how they passed without protection from the administration. And what are we doing for them? What's funny is that many one here will rail against participation trophies, but what most athletes get when they go to college is a participation degree. They are no better off than they were before and the university has made millions off of them.

I agree to some degree also, but the kids are off the street and have a opportunity to succeed. What they do with their opportunity is on them. If just a couple are successful it really helps everyone in the community.
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Re: college football

Postby Bestoutwest » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:15 pm

True Grit Farms wrote:
Bestoutwest wrote:
True Grit Farms wrote:A lot of kids get a education that they wouldn't or couldn't, because they can play football and baseball.


I agree to some degree, but watching the "student" athletes at my university doodle in class and not do any of the homework, I wonder how they passed without protection from the administration. And what are we doing for them? What's funny is that many one here will rail against participation trophies, but what most athletes get when they go to college is a participation degree. They are no better off than they were before and the university has made millions off of them.

I agree to some degree also, but the kids are off the street and have a opportunity to succeed. What they do with their opportunity is on them. If just a couple are successful it really helps everyone in the community.


This is very true. The literal ball is on their court.
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