Breaking dog from chasing cattle

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Postby Bez> » Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:48 pm

CB,

This is the 21'st century. Every animal now has feelings and they must be respected.

Every dog owner has feelings as well.

Your blunt manner simply hurts them to the core.

To talk of death and shooting - well, that is simply not on.

I know you know this. After all you are a man who lives and works in the country. You are at one with nature.

You truly need to get in touch with your feelings and learn to perhaps express yourself in a more clear and decisive manner - yet one that does not offend the sensibilities of those who read these boards.

One that shows the love you should have for Mom Nature and finest creature - the family pup.

There are those who believe a dog has the same rights as a human - those people pay taxes and their feelings need to be known and heard.

Your shameful attitude towards beautiful creatures like the family pet are a discredit to us all!



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P.S. I personally think a .22 is too small. Something like a .25-.06 has a far better result - and it reaches out a bit further as well.

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Postby Caustic Burno » Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:51 pm

Bez> wrote:CB,

This is the 21'st century. Every animal now has feelings and they must be respected.

Every dog owner has feelings as well.

Your blunt manner simply hurts them to the core.

To talk of death and shooting - well, that is simply not on.

I know you know this. After all you are a man who lives and works in the country. You are at one with nature.

You truly need to get in touch with your feelings and learn to perhaps express yourself in a more clear and decisive manner - yet one that does not offend the sensibilities of those who read these boards.

One that shows the love you should have for Mom Nature and finest creature - the family pup.

There are those who believe a dog has the same rights as a human - those people pay taxes and their feelings need to be known and heard.

Your shameful attitude towards beautiful creatures like the family pet are a discredit to us all!



Bez>



P.S. I personally think a .22 is too small. Something like a .25-.06 has a far better result - and it reaches out a bit further as well.

b :D


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Postby Alice » Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:53 pm

Keep the dog behind the fence, and no one will need to be PC.

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Postby msscamp » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:25 pm

Alice wrote:Was the dog kept in a fenced yard in the city? If so, then that's what it knows and that's where it needs to say. My dogs have been behind a fence their whole lives, and the one or two times I thought I would give them a treat and let them out, they ran and ran and ran and I was a nervous wreck until I got them back. And, if I'd not been so relieved to get them back, I'd have...well never mind...

Avoid frustration and temptation to do what I was thinking I'd l like to do when mine ran and ran...leave the dog in the yard and get a dog that you can train to do what you'd like for it to do. Your wife's dog is safer behind the fence in the yard. And your sanity and marriage are worth something.

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I'm not sure I entirely agree with you, Alice. Both of my dogs were city dogs for roughly the first 2 years of their lives, and all they knew was a fenced yard. I can let them out to run - I could do that from day 1 - and they will come when I call them, and have never offered to chase the cattle or horses (I made sure they knew better than that, because cattle chasing is an instant death sentence around here - I don't care who the dog belongs to, or what the circumstances are). People, however, are a different story - my female dislikes men and will get around behind them and nip their heels/ankles. :oops:
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Postby Brute 23 » Mon May 21, 2007 7:34 pm

A "good" cow will not fix the problem... it just gets the dog more hyped up. The only way the cow will fix the problem is by killing the dog.

The way we train our hunting dogs and family pets is to start off by driving by the cattle with the dog tied up where you can correct the dog. You can also walk the dog out there but I think we all know the risk of walking around cows with dogs.

As soon as the dog gets an eye on the cattle and starts acting like he wants to go you pop the dog on the nose and say "get out of there" do it several times until the dog looks away. Then go on. Next day do it again. Go by the cows and when the dog locks his eyes on the cows tell him "get out of there" and start swatting him on top the nose.

Just repeat it over and over. Eventually when you go by the cows the dog will just look away. You don't have to HIT the dog... just a little swat to break their attention off the cattle and to recodnize that you are giving a command. If the dog is not use to taking commands it will take longer.

If the dog still continues after doing that for a while then go from swatting on the nose to popping on the rear with a rope or leash.... again not beat the dog with a rope. A quick pop to get their attention from the cattle to you. Make sure the dog is tied up so that when you pop the dog it doesn't run off. That does no good.

It makes no difference wether the dog is from the city or country, big dog little dog, Blue Healer, Pit Bull, Heinz 57.... be consistant and put a little time in and you can correct the dog no matter what. It is worth it in the end... nothing is better to have around then a well trained dog.
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Postby mdmdogs3 » Mon May 21, 2007 8:58 pm

Brute 23 wrote:As soon as the dog gets an eye on the cattle and starts acting like he wants to go you pop the dog on the nose and say "get out of there" do it several times until the dog looks away. Then go on. Next day do it again. Go by the cows and when the dog locks his eyes on the cows tell him "get out of there" and start swatting him on top the nose.


you can use this technique to teach the dog to leave anything alone, cats, food on the floor, etc

I teach the command "Leave it" - back when I showed dogs in AKC obedience trials they were often held in conjunction with conformation shows (pretty dog shows) and there was always someone throwing food in the next ring trying to keep their foo foo poodle's attention - what he was going to get was a 75# chocolate lab jumping the little ring gate :oops: (she was always up for any kind of food)
obviously this was a very important command as the judge wouldn't have thought that was appropriate behavior :mad:
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Postby msscamp » Mon May 21, 2007 9:22 pm

"Leave it" is the command I use, as well. So far - my dogs are 7 years old - I have not encountered anything that they do not drop/turn away from immediately as soon as I give that command.
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Postby Brute 23 » Mon May 21, 2007 10:46 pm

mdmdogs3 wrote:you can use this technique to teach the dog to leave anything alone, cats, food on the floor, etc


Definatley, that command will come in handy when the dog knows it. It is like saying "stop what you are doing right now" but shorter so it is easier to train the dog.

Too many people just want to eliminate the problem by not going around cows... :roll: Take the time to correct it. It may take 2yrs for the dog to be rock solid in the command but you will enjoy the next 8yrs with the dog alot more than if you had not corrected the problem and stuck the dog in a pin.
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Postby CattleHand » Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:22 pm

Tie it on a rope and take it out with you.

When it goes after the cattle yank it over, pin it down and reassure the dog thay behavior is not wanted (by being stern)

My dog use to chase cattle, now she can walk out with me and the calves even come up and sniff her.
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