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any hog guys on here?

Postby trappersteve » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:11 am

Will be gettin a few pigs in the near future and I've never had them before. I will be starting from scratch and don't know much about them. I'm looking for tips that will help the learning curve ( pens, feeding, shelter). I will probably start out with a couple or three 7 week olds .
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Postby M5farm » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:10 am

I prefer to fence off and area that has some shade and grazing. Electric fence is a Must as they will root up to and under the web wire. get a good ration and check with your feed store for mineral requirements. pastured pigs will be healthier than confined ones IMO. They will consume anything you give them from kitchen scraps to meat trimmings.
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Postby trappersteve » Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:45 pm

Thanx m5 how big of a lot do recomend per pig?
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Postby M5farm » Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:58 pm

3 or 4 pigs on an 1/2 acre and another 1/2 acre to rotate to and you will be fine. I know folks that keep the in 20x20 pens and they do fine but they will be Happier with room to move around and every one knows that Happy Pigs make better bacon.
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Postby TexasBred » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:01 pm

trappersteve wrote:Will be gettin a few pigs in the near future and I've never had them before. I will be starting from scratch and don't know much about them. I'm looking for tips that will help the learning curve ( pens, feeding, shelter). I will probably start out with a couple or three 7 week olds .



Steve most pig starters will run at least 20% crude protein with 4-5% fat and no more than 4-5% crude fiber and will be composed primarily of corn and soybean meal along with all needed vitamins and minerals. Then as they grow and mature you can switch to a grower and then a finisher. I'd stay away from the nationwide brands with the exception of MoorMan's feed which is a subsidiary of ADM. They make good pig rations. And as M5 said, they'll eat just about anything else you give them as well.
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Postby trappersteve » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:20 pm

M5 can they run whithin an electric fence only and how many wires how Hi

Tb I will be gettin my ration from southern states 20% to start and then 14% and corn to finish. When do I need to start them on the 14%?
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Postby M5farm » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:01 pm

Electric fence only no less than 3 strands 6" ,12" , 30" at the minimum for small pigs as they get larger you can divide the distance. It will require a daily trip around the fence to clear debris. I used to walk about 5 miles of fence with a hoe every day on a on an about 50 acres so that tells you how many pens we had. We averaged around 500 to 800 head in the late 70's and 80's
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Re: any hog guys on here?

Postby trappersteve » Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:35 pm

M5farm wrote:Electric fence only no less than 3 strands 6" ,12" , 30" at the minimum for small pigs as they get larger you can divide the distance. It will require a daily trip around the fence to clear debris. I used to walk about 5 miles of fence with a hoe every day on a on an about 50 acres so that tells you how many pens we had. We averaged around 500 to 800 head in the late 70's and 80's

My plan was to grow them to about 150 pounds then turn them out on grass and train them to electricity while in the lot
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Postby M5farm » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:26 pm

That will work . they will test the fence every day. They are easy to raise and quite entertaining also. When they get you routine down they will know when it's time to be fed and come a running. My neighbor has 10 or 12 and on pig that's around 150# acts normal when I go by his pen on anything but my jeep. When I go by on the jeep he turn in circles like he's chasing his tail. It's very funny
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Postby rla442 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:40 am

I've also tossed around raising a couple pigs. I've heard that too hot of an electric fence will kill a pig. Is there any fact to that and if so, how hot of a charger do you need?
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Postby M5farm » Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:06 am

rla442 wrote:I've also tossed around raising a couple pigs. I've heard that too hot of an electric fence will kill a pig. Is there any fact to that and if so, how hot of a charger do you need?


I use a standard 10 mile charger, my neighbor uses 50mile charger. I'm sure it could happen if the pig were to get hung up on the fence but never seen it.
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Postby TexasBred » Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:59 pm

trappersteve wrote:M5 can they run whithin an electric fence only and how many wires how Hi

Tb I will be gettin my ration from southern states 20% to start and then 14% and corn to finish. When do I need to start them on the 14%?

Grower at 50-60 lbs. to market or kill weight.
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Postby trappersteve » Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:23 pm

Thanx tb I may keep a sow or two for breeding, do I need to feed them ant different . I don't want them too big for breeders probably about 300 pounds or so
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Postby cow pollinater » Sat Aug 09, 2014 5:06 pm

We keep one sow and breed her every nine months or so. I let her out every so often but for the most part she's penned on concrete. After pecan harvest I let her out for a few hours a day and she feeds herself for the most part but if I leave her out to long the destruction starts so a few hours is tops. Once they're mature you can feed them pretty cheap up until they farrow and then you're going to have to pay attention and FEED them. They milk like a cow can only dream about.
For getting pigs up to slaughter weight, don't try to feed cheap. You will taste every mistake you make if you do. In the past we've fed hogs leftover milk, eggs, garden scraps, etc and did get them up to butcher size but I had to get pretty dam hungry before I'd ask my wife for a pork chop. :yuck: Now I just pump the grain to them and drool every time I see them. It's not cost effective but it IS worth it.
Also, it pays to spend a bunch of time with them when they're young. My current sow was a show pig and if she doesn't come when I call her I can have a kid go walk her back even if she has piglets with her. A few years ago we tried running a few commercial sows on pasture with piglets and I literally had to go out with the dogs and a shovel to protect myself to get them penned up.
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Re: any hog guys on here?

Postby trappersteve » Sat Aug 09, 2014 9:05 pm

thanx cp very informative is it true that if you feed pigs meat that they will get mean
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