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Sous Vide Cooking

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:13 pm
by artesianspringsfarm
Who does it and what do you like to cook? It's my new favorite winter method for steaks and chicken thighs turn out awesome in there also.

Re: Sous Vide Cooking

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:46 pm
by greybeard
I have a case of MREs...does that count?

Re: Sous Vide Cooking

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:58 pm
by slick4591
Pretty sure it's not a widespread method of cooking because of the costs involved. I haven't studied it to great detail, although I do have the basic idea.

Re: Sous Vide Cooking

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 1:06 am
by Jogeephus
I use it and have had good success with venison, chicken and beef. I also use it to poach sandwich meats.

Re: Sous Vide Cooking

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:01 pm
by cow pollinater
That's my go to method for tri tip. I never knew there was a special name or equipment until my brother in law showed me his. I always just heat up a pot of water to the right temp and put the meat in a plastic bag and dump it in. I call it "cooking it in water" but I guess if you sit down to pee and wear a tie under your sweater just to lay around the house like my BIL does then you have to know the proper name and have all the right equipment to enjoy it.

Re: Sous Vide Cooking

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:03 pm
by artesianspringsfarm
Jogeephus wrote:I use it and have had good success with venison, chicken and beef. I also use it to poach sandwich meats.


Did some italian roast beef just that way for sandwiches today. Quick sear on some cast iron and slice it up. Sure is good.

Re: Sous Vide Cooking

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:54 pm
by Jogeephus
artesianspringsfarm wrote:
Jogeephus wrote:I use it and have had good success with venison, chicken and beef. I also use it to poach sandwich meats.


Did some italian roast beef just that way for sandwiches today. Quick sear on some cast iron and slice it up. Sure is good.


I did something similar today only with venison. I made some faux loins from some venison eye of rounds then cooked them sous vide to 129F cooled sliced then made Philadelphia Cheesesteak Sandwiches. Incredibly tender and juicy for venison. Lunch is sorted for the week for about six bucks. What impresses me the most is what it can do for chicken breasts. I'm not a fan of chicken breast but doing it this way sure takes it to another level.

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CP, so I take it you and your BIL don't go hunting together. ;-) :lol: :hide:

Re: Sous Vide Cooking

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:25 pm
by artesianspringsfarm
Jogeephus wrote:
artesianspringsfarm wrote:
Jogeephus wrote:I use it and have had good success with venison, chicken and beef. I also use it to poach sandwich meats.


Did some italian roast beef just that way for sandwiches today. Quick sear on some cast iron and slice it up. Sure is good.


I did something similar today only with venison. I made some faux loins from some venison eye of rounds then cooked them sous vide to 129F cooled sliced then made Philadelphia Cheesesteak Sandwiches. Incredibly tender and juicy for venison. Lunch is sorted for the week for about six bucks. What impresses me the most is what it can do for chicken breasts. I'm not a fan of chicken breast but doing it this way sure takes it to another level.




Jo, are you scared at all when you cook it that low? I've heard sous-vide red meat needs to be at least 132 if its for any length of time to avoid bacteria issues. Would love your insight. I did todays roast beef at 135. A little more than I would like but it was still good.

Re: Sous Vide Cooking

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:18 pm
by jedstivers
I have a friend that uses it for everything he cooks. It's unreal what you can do with a cheap cut of meat. Now he's even doing bacon with it.

Re: Sous Vide Cooking

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:19 pm
by jedstivers
slick4591 wrote:Pretty sure it's not a widespread method of cooking because of the costs involved. I haven't studied it to great detail, although I do have the basic idea.

They are cheap now.
You can also use a cooler to do it. Has to be one of those real good ones that hold heat a long time or you'll be babysitting it constantly.

Re: Sous Vide Cooking

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:28 pm
by artesianspringsfarm
jedstivers wrote:
slick4591 wrote:Pretty sure it's not a widespread method of cooking because of the costs involved. I haven't studied it to great detail, although I do have the basic idea.

They are cheap now.
You can also use a cooler to do it. Has to be one of those real good ones that hold heat a long time or you'll be babysitting it constantly.




Exactly right on the cost. You can get a refurbished Anova unit for $99 on a deal online. Pair that with a good vacuum sealer and you really can get some pretty amazing results. Also, compared to the idea of a water bath in a pot, or even the cooler (which is how I started), its a lot more consistent. They are guaranteed to hold temp to within .5 degree F I believe.

Re: Sous Vide Cooking

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:29 pm
by Jogeephus
artesianspringsfarm wrote:
Jogeephus wrote:
artesianspringsfarm wrote:
Did some italian roast beef just that way for sandwiches today. Quick sear on some cast iron and slice it up. Sure is good.


I did something similar today only with venison. I made some faux loins from some venison eye of rounds then cooked them sous vide to 129F cooled sliced then made Philadelphia Cheesesteak Sandwiches. Incredibly tender and juicy for venison. Lunch is sorted for the week for about six bucks. What impresses me the most is what it can do for chicken breasts. I'm not a fan of chicken breast but doing it this way sure takes it to another level.




Jo, are you scared at all when you cook it that low? I've heard sous-vide red meat needs to be at least 132 if its for any length of time to avoid bacteria issues. Would love your insight. I did todays roast beef at 135. A little more than I would like but it was still good.


I think what you are referring to is you should never chill and re-heat meat that has been cooked at a temp less than 130F. Nothing wrong with cooking a steak at 129-134F then searing and eating it. You'll want to do this 45 minutes to 4 hours (2 1/2 hours max if under 130°F/54°C) .

What I was doing today was working with re-formed meat and I cooked it at 129F to tenderize the meat. From there I chilled then sliced thin. These slices were then cooked on a hot skillet so they were all essentially seared. I don't think it would have been safe had I chilled the chub then then seared the whole thing then sliced since the majority of the meat would never have reached a safe temp. Basically what I did was use the sous vide to tenderize then I cooked it after it was sliced. I don't see anything wrong with this.

I'm still learning sous vide but it seems to have a lot of promise. The best information I've found has been from J. Kenyi Lopez-Alt. He seems to use a lot of common sense and science and he's debunked several food myths. I now cook my chicken breasts to 143F and they are incredible and completely safe.

Re: Sous Vide Cooking

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:53 am
by slick4591
I would have never thought they had gotten down that low. Last I looked the least expensive I saw was $400+.

Re: Sous Vide Cooking

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:48 pm
by jedstivers
Another good use of them is reheating.
I don't have one but when I have really good leftovers I don't want the microwave or oven to ruin I'll bag them and fill the sink with hot water. While I'm doing that I'll have a pot of water coming to a boil. I'll add that too. Get the water hot. Enough long enough and the meat is just like it came off the grill.

Re: Sous Vide Cooking

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:31 pm
by skyhightree1
greybeard wrote:I have a case of MREs...does that count?


What I really liked was the c rations cans of sphaghetti... That MRE peanut butter and those hard #$$% crackers taste pretty good too..