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Get ready for another hit on beef prices

Postby Jogeephus » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:12 pm

At this year's International Production and Processing Expo, Mark Dopp who is vice president of regulatory affairs with the North American Meat Institute delivered some bad news. The United Nations' World Health Organization's International Agency on Cancer will be publishing a paper sometime this summer saying that ALL red meat is possibly carcinogenic and ALL processed meat IS carcinogenic. Also the World Cancer Research Fund is also set to publish something similar later this year.

Not to miss an opportunity, the Center for Science in the Public Interest, is currently petitioning the USDA to put warning labels on red meat similar to those found on tobacco products. The CSPI is a lobby group founded and run by Michael Jacobson who you may know better as a sitting chairman on the National Council of the Great American Meatout, the annual event sponsored by Farm Animal Rights Movement, that encourages people to "kick the meat habit" for a day. Jacobson has probably influenced you already by his coining the terms "junk food" and "empty calorie" so he knows how to get his message out. He is a strong advocate for higher taxes on unhealthy foods, greater use of warning labels on food and beverage packaging, restrictions on advertising and selling junk foods and lawsuits against food producers such as ourselves for producing red meat which everyone in the world will soon know causes cancer.

This just may be a windfall for the folks at the United Nations who have long said the production of red meat is wasteful and because the grain use in meat production would better be use to feed all those starving children in Africa. Don't mean to be political but I see no way around it when the politics are fixing to be at our doorstep this summer. It will be interesting to see what happens and how this will effect us. Just wanted to share this because I thought it important.
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Postby Waterway65 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:46 pm

I am still alive and well and according to your post I should be dead! I think they should worry a lot more about are sugar consumption in this country. Everything in moderation. The Lord provided everything for our use.
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Postby True Grit Farms » Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:40 am

The US of A needs to cut spending to the UN by 50%. Sure wish we could find a way to send all the liberals and vegans to Iraq.
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Postby Bright Raven » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:06 am

A yawn. Nothing New! Concept has been around since Hector was a pup.
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Postby True Grit Farms » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:21 am

Bright Raven wrote:A yawn. Nothing New! Concept has been around since Hector was a pup.


A dogs adverage lifespan is only 10-13 years. For the last 8 years we had a donkey and the previous 8 years a lame duck. Maybe the new bull will make a difference.
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Postby Bright Raven » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:38 am

True Grit Farms wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:A yawn. Nothing New! Concept has been around since Hector was a pup.


A dogs adverage lifespan is only 10-13 years. For the last 8 years we had a donkey and the previous 8 years a lame duck. Maybe the new bull will make a difference.


I hope he can. At the least, he is far more entertaining.
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Postby Jogeephus » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:50 pm

Ron I'm glad you don't think this will make a difference to cattle prices but the meat industry is pretty upset but I guess that's another industry altogether and has nothing to do with us.
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Re: Get ready for another hit on beef prices

Postby Bright Raven » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:17 pm

Jogeephus wrote:Ron I'm glad you don't think this will make a difference to cattle prices but the meat industry is pretty upset but I guess that's another industry altogether and has nothing to do with us.


My good friend. The concept that red meat is linked to atherosclerosis and cancer is now older than I am and I ain't no spring chicken. Those that eat red meat (and the number is still increasing) ignore it or don't believe it. I don't think a label or pounding the drum louder is going to change that. At least not enough that you and I will see any difference in our business.
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Postby Jogeephus » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:42 pm

I hope you are right Ron and I agree this myth has been around for a long time but this is the first time the United Nations and the World Health Organization have decided to push this agenda and this is where I think you and I have to disagree because I think it will make a difference but I will be more than happy to be wrong.

Seems the last prediction I made on the beef market was met with the same degree of concern. I suggested tightening our belts after Obama's speech where he said beef needed to be made more affordable for the poor. While I cut my herd numbers down many expanded thinking they were assured a profit. Shortly thereafter Obama forgot about hoof and mouth and opened the doors to S. American imports.

I don't know what to do in this situation but if it gets some traction in social media I do think the millenials will run with it and it will have an effect on us all. But again, I hope I'm wrong.
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Postby Bright Raven » Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:20 pm

Jogeephus wrote:I hope you are right Ron and I agree this myth has been around for a long time but this is the first time the United Nations and the World Health Organization have decided to push this agenda and this is where I think you and I have to disagree because I think it will make a difference but I will be more than happy to be wrong.

Seems the last prediction I made on the beef market was met with the same degree of concern. I suggested tightening our belts after Obama's speech where he said beef needed to be made more affordable for the poor. While I cut my herd numbers down many expanded thinking they were assured a profit. Shortly thereafter Obama forgot about hoof and mouth and opened the doors to S. American imports.

I don't know what to do in this situation but if it gets some traction in social media I do think the millenials will run with it and it will have an effect on us all. But again, I hope I'm wrong.


I hope I am right too.

Think about this: half the World population is malnourished and the other half are advised to pursue a healthy diet. I know one thing we can agree on: the children starving in Africa who are faced with getting enough food to make it into the morrow are glad to dine on red meat.
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Postby zirlottkim » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:51 pm

Bright Raven wrote:
Jogeephus wrote:I hope you are right Ron and I agree this myth has been around for a long time but this is the first time the United Nations and the World Health Organization have decided to push this agenda and this is where I think you and I have to disagree because I think it will make a difference but I will be more than happy to be wrong.

Seems the last prediction I made on the beef market was met with the same degree of concern. I suggested tightening our belts after Obama's speech where he said beef needed to be made more affordable for the poor. While I cut my herd numbers down many expanded thinking they were assured a profit. Shortly thereafter Obama forgot about hoof and mouth and opened the doors to S. American imports.

I don't know what to do in this situation but if it gets some traction in social media I do think the millenials will run with it and it will have an effect on us all. But again, I hope I'm wrong.


I hope I am right too.

Think about this: half the World population is malnourished and the other half are advised to pursue a healthy diet. I know one thing we can agree on: the children starving in Africa who are faced with getting enough food to make it into the morrow are glad to dine on red meat.

Not just Africa. I read that Venezuelans have on average lost 19 lbs per person last year. They are slowly starving. Wonder how the nutritional value of cats, dogs and pigeons compare to beef? Maybe the U.N should do a study. I heard a U.S. FARM REPORT commentator make the statement that all food products should have this label... "If you eat this product, you will die". Though he said it with sarcasm.
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Postby R V » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:25 am

Institutionally elite vegan extremism in the 70's-80's pushed low fat diets "with facts" that retrospectively were lies and studies designed for a particular outcome (goal of decreasing/eliminating meat intake) and not based on true outcomes. Sort of like the Kellogg cereal company study that showed that eggs were bad for you. Isn't it interesting that the only person living from the 1800's (Italy) eats 2 eggs for breakfast every day. She was still independent and living in her own apartment when she turned 117 years old. I think she still is, but I haven't seen any recent articles on her.

Instead of improving health and lifespan, low fat diets have expedited the opposite extreme to such and extent that even the government under a liberal denounced low fat diets. I give the Obama administration their due on this and was/am impressed. In addition to the obesity epidemic, I think the current epidemic of dementia in young thin "healthy appearing" women probably helped expedite this. I have a patient who is not quite 50 and low risk who has severe dementia and can't find her way home nor recognize her children part of the time. It appears dairy fats, yes animal fats, significantly decrease this risk. (Several fresh fruits and vegetables and physical exercise also appear important in prevention- no surprise with these though.) Sadly and unfortunately, the latest data I read had vegetarians dying earlier than omnivores. This is a first as far as I know. I have my theories on this, but that is all they are and not worth delineating.

In regards to our cattle economics and business, only time will tell how much impact these latest attempts will have. Hopefully, not much!
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Postby boondocks » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:27 am

R V wrote:Institutionally elite vegan extremism in the 70's-80's pushed low fat diets "with facts" that retrospectively were lies and studies designed for a particular outcome (goal of decreasing/eliminating meat intake) and not based on true outcomes. Sort of like the Kellogg cereal company study that showed that eggs were bad for you. Isn't it interesting that the only person living from the 1800's (Italy) eats 2 eggs for breakfast every day. She was still independent and living in her own apartment when she turned 117 years old. I think she still is, but I haven't seen any recent articles on her.

Instead of improving health and lifespan, low fat diets have expedited the opposite extreme to such and extent that even the government under a liberal denounced low fat diets. I give the Obama administration their due on this and was/am impressed. In addition to the obesity epidemic, I think the current epidemic of dementia in young thin "healthy appearing" women probably helped expedite this. I have a patient who is not quite 50 and low risk who has severe dementia and can't find her way home nor recognize her children part of the time. It appears dairy fats, yes animal fats, significantly decrease this risk. (Several fresh fruits and vegetables and physical exercise also appear important in prevention- no surprise with these though.) Sadly and unfortunately, the latest data I read had vegetarians dying earlier than omnivores. This is a first as far as I know. I have my theories on this, but that is all they are and not worth delineating.

In regards to our cattle economics and business, only time will tell how much impact these latest attempts will have. Hopefully, not much!


I don't recall that the low-fat craze was pushed by vegans--more like food conglomerates that wished us to buy higher sugar lower fat cookies (Snackwells anyone?). At any rate I am curious about the data on lifespan. If in fact there is credible objective evidence of meateaters living longer (and healthier) can you share? It would be great to have in hand for when vegan/vegetarians give me the side eye! A quick search found this as the first "legit" source I saw (and it doesn't say meateaters live longer or better): http://time.com/9463/7-reasons-vegetarians-live-longer/
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Postby dun » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:39 am

boondocks wrote:If in fact there is credible objective evidence of meateaters living longer (and healthier) can you share? It would be great to have in hand for when vegan/vegetarians give me the side eye! A quick search found this as the first "legit" source I saw (and it doesn't say meateaters live longer or better): http://time.com/9463/7-reasons-vegetarians-live-longer/

Carnivores probably just enjoy eating more and the veggies just seem to feel like they live longer because their diet makes it seem like life just drags on.
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Postby greybeard » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:44 am

I know one thing..I already outlived Euell Gibbons..
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