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Re: Oilfield​

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:53 pm
by Brute 23
Very sad. There are a lot of people who risk their life every day for us to have the amenities we all enjoy.

Re: Oilfield​

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:39 am
by crimsoncrazy
Craig Miller wrote:All the news reporter act like they don't know anything about drilling rigs. One said they rigged up last week and the rig is bigger than a drilling rig. :roll: They all say there was 20 people working when it happen. 20 people on location maybe. 5 working. You can guess where they were. The last report said only 3 missing though. It's a bad deal. Anybody on the floor wouldn't even had time to react to something like that
Edit. 5 missing. 3 drill crew. 1 company man. 1 directional driller. And the report I got yesterday may not have been correct


The 5 that will killed were in the dog house. Must have been one heck of an explosion.

Re: Oilfield​

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:50 am
by Craig Miller
crimsoncrazy wrote: Must have been one heck of an explosion.


I hope it was. That rig is identical to mine. A diffrent color paint on the side is the only difference. It's high tech for an onshore rig. Amphion computer control system. Ran with a joystick instead of a brake handle. The dog house is fully enclosed and the driller sits behind a glass to run it. I hope you're right and a big initial explosion killed them, not that they were trapped inside there trying to figure a way out.

Re: Oilfield​

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:01 am
by Caustic Burno
Craig Miller wrote:
crimsoncrazy wrote: Must have been one heck of an explosion.


I hope it was. That rig is identical to mine. A diffrent color paint on the side is the only difference. It's high tech for an onshore rig. Amphion computer control system. Ran with a joystick instead of a brake handle. The dog house is fully enclosed and the driller sits behind a glass to run it. I hope you're right and a big initial explosion killed them, not that they were trapped inside there trying to figure a way out.


No matter how safe you make it the petrochemical industry is a dangerous job, Flammable, explosive and poisonous. The problem anything built by man is subject to fail with out proper maintenance,inspection or operating procedures.
For 30 years when there was a bad fire or explosion in the refinery it was my teams job to find the cause.
The part that most don’t like 99% of the time it traced back to human error.
I have seen some hellish traps left by prior shifts and management.
This is a good read for anyone in the industry. It is an eye opener.
It has the 2005 Texas City mess in it as well. I was made superintendent to go in and clean that mess up.


https://www.elsevier.com/books/what-wen ... 5617-531-9
This was fun as well.
http://www.csb.gov/mobile/u-s-chemical- ... jured-180/

Re: Oilfield​

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:47 am
by greybeard
Craig Miller wrote:
crimsoncrazy wrote: Must have been one heck of an explosion.


I hope it was. That rig is identical to mine. A diffrent color paint on the side is the only difference. It's high tech for an onshore rig. Amphion computer control system. Ran with a joystick instead of a brake handle. The dog house is fully enclosed and the driller sits behind a glass to run it. I hope you're right and a big initial explosion killed them, not that they were trapped inside there trying to figure a way out.

Not a good predicament to be in or even think about. Not much choice to make and precious little time and neither option good.

Lots of ways to die in the oil patch.
https://www.roughneckcity.com/accidents
The one of the truck is pretty bad that isn't the first trucker that had a load of pipe or casing come thru his cab.

Re: Oilfield​

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:40 pm
by Brute 23
A tank battery blew up yesterday not far from here and they had to fly a guy out for severe burns.

I'm not that old and 2 guys I went to school with have been been killed in freak O&G related accidents.

... but at least every one can save a few pennies at the pump so the can buy their coffees and cigs. :x

Re: Oilfield​

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:50 pm
by ohiosteve
That Oklahoma explosion sounds horrible. I couldn't imagine being on site when something like that happens, what a nightmare.
Greybeard I really enjoyed those pictures you posted. I've been real busy doing pipeline work lately. Here's a directional rig that just got done with a 58" diameter bore under a major river in Ohio. They started pulling pipe today, 2000' of 42" pipe. They got a couple hundred feet pulled but now it's stuck. They are bringing in a air hammer to try to get it moving again. I cant even imagine what that contraption will look like.
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Re: Oilfield​

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:19 pm
by TexasBred
Brute 23 wrote:A tank battery blew up yesterday not far from here and they had to fly a guy out for severe burns.

I'm not that old and 2 guys I went to school with have been been killed in freak O&G related accidents.

... but at least every one can save a few pennies at the pump so the can buy their coffees and cigs. :x

You think it would be safer if gas were $5 a gallon??

Re: Oilfield​

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:35 pm
by Brute 23
TexasBred wrote:
Brute 23 wrote:A tank battery blew up yesterday not far from here and they had to fly a guy out for severe burns.

I'm not that old and 2 guys I went to school with have been been killed in freak O&G related accidents.

... but at least every one can save a few pennies at the pump so the can buy their coffees and cigs. :x

You think it would be safer if gas were $5 a gallon??


Yes.

It's very tough to see people getting killed in your industry while the public demonizes it. They complain about paying $4 for fuel but drop $800 on a phone, $70K on the vehicle, and $200 a month for a sports package to watch a guy who gets paid $29M a year to play baseball. That is all ok though.

It makes me sick to my stomach to be honest.

Re: Oilfield​

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:19 am
by True Grit Farms
Brute 23 wrote:
TexasBred wrote:
Brute 23 wrote:A tank battery blew up yesterday not far from here and they had to fly a guy out for severe burns.

I'm not that old and 2 guys I went to school with have been been killed in freak O&G related accidents.

... but at least every one can save a few pennies at the pump so the can buy their coffees and cigs. :x

You think it would be safer if gas were $5 a gallon??


Yes.

It's very tough to see people getting killed in your industry while the public demonizes it. They complain about paying $4 for fuel but drop $800 on a phone, $70K on the vehicle, and $200 a month for a sports package to watch a guy who gets paid $29M a year to play baseball. That is all ok though.

It makes me sick to my stomach to be honest.

Everyone knows the more a product cost the safer it is. Exactly how the communist liberals think, gotta make sure there's a big renewable energy tax on gas also.

Re: Oilfield​

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:28 am
by TexasBred
True Grit Farms wrote:
Brute 23 wrote:
TexasBred wrote:You think it would be safer if gas were $5 a gallon??


Yes.

It's very tough to see people getting killed in your industry while the public demonizes it. They complain about paying $4 for fuel but drop $800 on a phone, $70K on the vehicle, and $200 a month for a sports package to watch a guy who gets paid $29M a year to play baseball. That is all ok though.

It makes me sick to my stomach to be honest.

Everyone knows the more a product cost the safer it is. Exactly how the communist liberals think, gotta make sure there's a big renewable energy tax on gas also.


Grit hard to believe Brute is on the rag so much about "his" industry. I wish I could convince the buyers of petroleum to just arbitrarily agree to pay $40 more per barrel of oil so big oil could afford to raise the safety standards in every part of their industry. Next thing Brute will want is a big fat contract to play for the world champion Astros even though he knows he's not worth it. I'd bet him that big contract salary that more good men died serving in our military last year than died working in the oil field

Re: Oilfield​

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:39 am
by hurleyjd
I suspect that a lot of the oil field workers are not experinced and not trained. A lot of the older workers have played out and been replaced with younger ones. Safety is number one in any industry and all protocal needs to be followed.

Re: Oilfield​

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:54 am
by TexasBred
hurleyjd wrote:I suspect that a lot of the oil field workers are not experinced and not trained. A lot of the older workers have played out and been replaced with younger ones. Safety is number one in any industry and all protocal needs to be followed.

Some things you can do by the book for years....still gonna have that occasional accident,etc. which can hardly ever be explained and all the safety manuals and meetings in the world won't solve the problem 100%. Chief of Police exited his patrol car last week and broke and ankle...He weighs about 150 lbs. soaking wet.

Re: Oilfield​

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:35 am
by Craig Miller
The oilfield has come a long ways just in the last 15 years for safety. There are still some bad companies out there. Patterson was well know for years as being the deadliest company out there. About ten years ago they underwent major safety turnaround because they had become so unsafe they couldnt work for the big players, which is where long term rig contracts come from. The problem is not their safety policies now. They have more safety policies than my company. It's the attitude of the employees. If employees don't follow rules then the policies don't matter. Some big companies also think paperwork will solve all problems which is also not true. As far as training goes, big companies also tend to promote faster. You get a driller with just two years experience in the oilfield and he may be young too. Makes for a bad combination. He's been around long enough to know the dangers but not long enough to have the experience to know what to do in diffrent situations. All drillers, rig maanagers, and consultants are required to pass a well control course every two years. These are third party classes and regulated by the IADC. The rules for these have recently changed. It used to be a three day class. I went last year and they had gone to a four day class. When i go again this year it will be a five day class. Also the driller leads the crew and the crew attitude towards safety will fall in with the drillers attitude. That goes for how the crews works too.

Re: Oilfield​

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:50 am
by Bigfoot
I happen to know one of the men, that passed away in that explosion. His parents are having a real tough time.