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Re: Oilfield​

Postby Craig Miller » Fri May 19, 2017 1:00 pm

Not very common but it does happen. 10+ ppm can cause some sickness. Id say unreported sickness is probably around 100%. Headaches and such. We are allowed to work in anything under 10 ppm unrestricted. Above that and we have to wear mask with air tanks. On some wells they set up air systems for us with lines run around the rig. That lease from the picture has the highest h2s we see. The 100000 ppm in the picture is enough to kill you graveyard dead before you have time to finish taking a breath.
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Postby greybeard » Fri May 19, 2017 1:07 pm

If it's present it can quickly be bad Steve. It's the 2nd most toxic substance known to man, only behind Hydrogen Cyanide. Not a lot of fatalities because it's danger is so well known in oil & gas sector.
Lots of people in oilfield country smell it as they drive down the road and say "That smells like MONEY."
I say it smells like death.
At 10ppm, your sense of smell deteriorates or acclimates (olfactory paralysis) and you may think the danger is gone.
That's where one of the dangers lies.


At 30ppm, damage to the blood/brain barrier starts.

This chart, regardless of how it may look, is not linear.
Walk up on 300-500ppm and you're likely on your way to eternity.

 0.03 ppm
Can smell. Safe for 8 hours exposure

 4 ppm
May cause eye irritation. Mask must be used as it damages metabolism.

 10 ppm
Maximum exposure 10 minutes. Kills smell in 3 to 15 minutes. Causes GAS EYE and throat injury. Reacts violently with dental mercury amalgam fillings.

 20 ppm
Exposure for more than 1 minute causes severe injury to eye nerves.

 30 ppm
Loss of smell, injury to blood brain barrier through olfactory nerves

 100 ppm
Respiratory paralysis in 30 to 45 minutes. Needs prompt artificial resuscitation. Will become unconscious quickly (15 minutes maximum)

 200 ppm
Serious eye injury and permanent damage to eye nerves. Stings eye and throat.

300 ppm
Loses sense of reasoning and balance. Respiratory paralysis in 30 to 45 minutes

500 ppm
Asphyxia! Needs prompt artificial resuscitation. Will become unconscious in 3 to 5 minutes. Immediate artificial resuscitation is required.

 700 ppm
Breathing will stop and death will result if not rescued promptly, immediate unconsciousness. Permanent brain damage may result unless rescued promptly.
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Postby Brute 23 » Fri May 19, 2017 1:14 pm

All our new stuff is 1, 2, 3%. It's worse when you leave Texas. I have stood right there with our guys when they suited up and walked in to the fog. They hold the meters and we watch them go crazy. That is literally the line between life and death... no questions asked. If you want to end it all take 3 steps forward.

It is highly corrosive also. That well won't be around long at that rate. They become very uneconimical real fast as the production tapers off.
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Re: Oilfield​

Postby ohiosteve » Fri May 19, 2017 1:25 pm

That doesn't sound fun . I notice a lot of guys with detectors around the rigs. Is it more prevalent the deeper you are?
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Postby Craig Miller » Fri May 19, 2017 1:32 pm

It can be at any depth. Some formations have it and some dont. It can be more prevalant in different locations of the same formation. Example. We are drilling by the Midland airport right now. We do have some h2s but it stays below 5ppm most of the time. On the kimberly lease-less than 10 miles from where we are now- it stays 100+ppm. Thats where we had the 100000ppm. Same formation. Same depths.
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Postby greybeard » Fri May 19, 2017 1:49 pm

Brute 23 wrote:All our new stuff is 1, 2, 3%. It's worse when you leave Texas. I have stood right there with our guys when they suited up and walked in to the fog. They hold the meters and we watch them go crazy. That is literally the line between life and death... no questions asked. If you want to end it all take 3 steps forward.

It is highly corrosive also. That well won't be around long at that rate. They become very uneconimical real fast as the production tapers off.

and it permeates into steel too, and the gas can be released when the tank appears physically clean but closed up.
Nasty stuff.
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Postby M.Magis » Fri May 19, 2017 3:12 pm

A lot of the activity here in SE Ohio dried up when oil prices fell. I think the pipelines being held up was part of it too. Some of the big companies that set up shop here and signed anyone they could for $5000/acre or more just up and moves out this past year. We're right on the western edge of it, so it seems most of the activity is one county over. It was crazy 5 years ago, and i'm sure they'll be back when it makes sense.
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Postby Bright Raven » Fri May 19, 2017 4:12 pm

M.Magis wrote:A lot of the activity here in SE Ohio dried up when oil prices fell. I think the pipelines being held up was part of it too. Some of the big companies that set up shop here and signed anyone they could for $5000/acre or more just up and moves out this past year. We're right on the western edge of it, so it seems most of the activity is one county over. It was crazy 5 years ago, and i'm sure they'll be back when it makes sense.


Are you close to Athens?
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Postby TexasBred » Fri May 19, 2017 4:25 pm

M-5 wrote:Your right Craig I don't know anything about it and I find it strange that an oil company can just set up on property without any input from land owners. Seems to me if they didn't do what they should you can just shut them down but I guess the money is the root of the problem.

Land owners (surface owner) get paid a pretty good sum for drilling pad location. Use to be as much as $30K for one pad. And they normally pay damages for any surface spills as well as cleanup expense. But they will drill where they want to drill when all is said and done.
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Postby TexasBred » Fri May 19, 2017 4:29 pm

Brute 23 wrote:
M-5 wrote:Your right Craig I don't know anything about it and I find it strange that an oil company can just set up on property without any input from land owners. Seems to me if they didn't do what they should you can just shut them down but I guess the money is the root of the problem.


The mineral owners make a contract with the o&g company basically on the terms of their partnership. There are also environmental rules set by local, state, and federal agencies. All that only works if some one is willing to enforce the terms of the contact or the regulations.

The dicey part is mineral ownership usually trumps surface ownership so the owner of the surface doesn't always get to make the rules.

Everything is negotiable so even though he knows he will end up doing what the mineral rights owner and the OG company wants to do he can negotiate compensation. I own some minerals in Robertson County and surface owner sued O&G company and actually did get them to relocate a drill site by a couple hundred yards.
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Re: Oilfield​

Postby Caustic Burno » Fri May 19, 2017 4:31 pm

greybeard wrote:If it's present it can quickly be bad Steve. It's the 2nd most toxic substance known to man, only behind Hydrogen Cyanide. Not a lot of fatalities because it's danger is so well known in oil & gas sector.
Lots of people in oilfield country smell it as they drive down the road and say "That smells like MONEY."
I say it smells like death.
At 10ppm, your sense of smell deteriorates or acclimates (olfactory paralysis) and you may think the danger is gone.
That's where one of the dangers lies.


At 30ppm, damage to the blood/brain barrier starts.

This chart, regardless of how it may look, is not linear.
Walk up on 300-500ppm and you're likely on your way to eternity.

 0.03 ppm
Can smell. Safe for 8 hours exposure

 4 ppm
May cause eye irritation. Mask must be used as it damages metabolism.

 10 ppm
Maximum exposure 10 minutes. Kills smell in 3 to 15 minutes. Causes GAS EYE and throat injury. Reacts violently with dental mercury amalgam fillings.

 20 ppm
Exposure for more than 1 minute causes severe injury to eye nerves.

 30 ppm
Loss of smell, injury to blood brain barrier through olfactory nerves

 100 ppm
Respiratory paralysis in 30 to 45 minutes. Needs prompt artificial resuscitation. Will become unconscious quickly (15 minutes maximum)

 200 ppm
Serious eye injury and permanent damage to eye nerves. Stings eye and throat.

300 ppm
Loses sense of reasoning and balance. Respiratory paralysis in 30 to 45 minutes

500 ppm
Asphyxia! Needs prompt artificial resuscitation. Will become unconscious in 3 to 5 minutes. Immediate artificial resuscitation is required.

 700 ppm
Breathing will stop and death will result if not rescued promptly, immediate unconsciousness. Permanent brain damage may result unless rescued promptly.



I have walked through clouds of the stuff suited up.
It makes a greenish cloud in super high concentrations.
One of the units I worked on a SRU took the H2S out of the oil then we charged pure H2S to thermal and catalytic reactors converting it back to organic sulfur. We are talking a million cubic feet per hour.
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Re: Oilfield​

Postby M.Magis » Fri May 19, 2017 4:38 pm

Bright Raven wrote:
M.Magis wrote:A lot of the activity here in SE Ohio dried up when oil prices fell. I think the pipelines being held up was part of it too. Some of the big companies that set up shop here and signed anyone they could for $5000/acre or more just up and moves out this past year. We're right on the western edge of it, so it seems most of the activity is one county over. It was crazy 5 years ago, and i'm sure they'll be back when it makes sense.


Are you close to Athens?

Not too far, just about an hour or so south of here.
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Re: Oilfield​

Postby Bright Raven » Fri May 19, 2017 4:59 pm

M.Magis wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
M.Magis wrote:A lot of the activity here in SE Ohio dried up when oil prices fell. I think the pipelines being held up was part of it too. Some of the big companies that set up shop here and signed anyone they could for $5000/acre or more just up and moves out this past year. We're right on the western edge of it, so it seems most of the activity is one county over. It was crazy 5 years ago, and i'm sure they'll be back when it makes sense.


Are you close to Athens?

Not too far, just about an hour or so south of here.


I went through that country going to the Lazy H Simmental dispersal sale. Lovely country.
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Re: Oilfield​

Postby M.Magis » Fri May 19, 2017 6:36 pm

Bright Raven wrote:
M.Magis wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
Are you close to Athens?

Not too far, just about an hour or so south of here.


I went through that country going to the Lazy H Simmental dispersal sale. Lovely country.

It is, though flatlanders aren't crazy about the hills. :D
Thought about going to that sale but something came up. Looked like they had a nice operation.
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Re: Oilfield​

Postby Bright Raven » Fri May 19, 2017 7:11 pm

M.Magis wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
M.Magis wrote:Not too far, just about an hour or so south of here.


I went through that country going to the Lazy H Simmental dispersal sale. Lovely country.

It is, though flatlanders aren't crazy about the hills. :D
Thought about going to that sale but something came up. Looked like they had a nice operation.


I drove up on the Appalachian Highway. I like the hills. The sale was great. I saw Remington Lock and Load on his feet.

Looks like Lazy H is still operating.
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