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Re: The juice is loose..........

Postby TexasBred » Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:51 pm

SOB the "accusation" I referred to was the CRIMINAL case. Take a deep breath and read it again. The civil case was just that. Simpson could NOT be tried twice for the same crime as that's double jeopardy.



According to The Wall Street Journal, in a criminal trial, the jury must unanimously find the defendant guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt" in order to convict. However, the same burden of proof does not exist in civil cases, which merely require what's referred to as a "preponderance of evidence." According to Cornell University Law School, that "preponderance of evidence" means that at least "50 percent of the evidence points to something," rather than requiring a unanimous decision.

Furthermore, the specific charge of alleged first degree murder that was brought against Simpson in criminal court required proof of being "deliberate and premeditated" according to the definition in The Law Dictionary. On the other hand, according to law book publishing company Nolo, the charge of wrongful death brought in civil court only requires proof that "[the defendant's] intentional and unlawful conduct resulted in the victims' deaths."
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Postby Jogeephus » Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:57 pm

Son of Butch wrote:Fred Goldman has a place in trivia history as the answer to:
Who is the only Jew to have won a Heisman Trophy?
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That's good! :lol2: :lol2: :clap: :clap:
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Re: The juice is loose..........

Postby dun » Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:12 pm

TexasBred wrote:SOB the "accusation" I referred to was the CRIMINAL case. Take a deep breath and read it again. The civil case was just that. Simpson could NOT be tried twice for the same crime as that's double jeopardy.



According to The Wall Street Journal, in a criminal trial, the jury must unanimously find the defendant guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt" in order to convict. However, the same burden of proof does not exist in civil cases, which merely require what's referred to as a "preponderance of evidence." According to Cornell University Law School, that "preponderance of evidence" means that at least "50 percent of the evidence points to something," rather than requiring a unanimous decision.

Furthermore, the specific charge of alleged first degree murder that was brought against Simpson in criminal court required proof of being "deliberate and premeditated" according to the definition in The Law Dictionary. On the other hand, according to law book publishing company Nolo, the charge of wrongful death brought in civil court only requires proof that "[the defendant's] intentional and unlawful conduct resulted in the victims' deaths."

The whole standard of proof of guilt is much lower for a civil judgement, most people lose sight of that.
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Re: The juice is loose..........

Postby farmerjan » Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:47 pm

Agree or not for other "matters", he is being paroled in accordance with the crime that he was convicted of and the sentence that was imposed on him. He will be watched more closely just because of his "celebrity status " and if he screws up, he writes his epitaph Hope he has the sense to just fade into oblivion......
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Re: The juice is loose..........

Postby sstterry » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:44 am

Beyond a Reasonable Doubt means: that the evidence establishes a particular point to a moral certainty and that it is beyond dispute that any reasonable alternative is possible. It does not mean that no doubt exists as to the accused's guilt, but only that no Reasonable Doubt is possible from the evidence presented.

Civil Burden is only a Preponderance of the Evidence: more than 50% of the evidence points to something.
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Postby TexasBred » Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:47 pm

sstterry wrote:Beyond a Reasonable Doubt means: that the evidence establishes a particular point to a moral certainty and that it is beyond dispute that any reasonable alternative is possible. It does not mean that no doubt exists as to the accused's guilt, but only that no Reasonable Doubt is possible from the evidence presented.

Civil Burden is only a Preponderance of the Evidence: more than 50% of the evidence points to something.

And only a majority of the jurors have to vote "guilty" as apposed to 100% in the criminal case.
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Re: The juice is loose..........

Postby sstterry » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:36 pm

TexasBred wrote:
sstterry wrote:Beyond a Reasonable Doubt means: that the evidence establishes a particular point to a moral certainty and that it is beyond dispute that any reasonable alternative is possible. It does not mean that no doubt exists as to the accused's guilt, but only that no Reasonable Doubt is possible from the evidence presented.

Civil Burden is only a Preponderance of the Evidence: more than 50% of the evidence points to something.

And only a majority of the jurors have to vote "guilty" as apposed to 100% in the criminal case.


Actually, it is a little more complicated than that. It depends on the state and the rules.
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Re: The juice is loose..........

Postby Chuckie » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:32 am

Maybe he can go visit Kim Dung Un in North Korea and take him some signed jail shirts.
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