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Dmentia

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:12 am
by hurleyjd
Just heard this week that a classmate of mine was placed in an Alzheimer's disease Unit. He was touring last year with his wife and cousin with trucks and fifth wheels. Never know when something will slip up and bite you in the butt.

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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:32 am
by slick4591
Sorry about your friend. My MIL is in a nursing facility and has it. Most of the time she can't tell you if she has eaten 20 minutes afterwards. Still knows faces, but the short term is almost gone.

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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:32 am
by jltrent
IT has hit him fast, that is usually not good. Some people decline slowly over a long time.

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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:42 am
by Ol' 243
Bad, bad disease. The families suffer the most.

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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:43 am
by Jogeephus
Horrible disease and sorry about your friend. I have to deal with it every day with someone in my family. At the moment I am paying for caregivers from sunup to dark but after some incidents last week it may turn into round the clock care. I think it would be easier on everyone if we put her in a home but her wish is to die in her home so I'll keep paying caregivers as long as I can.

Don't know much about this but I've been told they are finding a link between dementia and sugar. It sounds like people with heavier meat diets who stay in ketosis more often are less apt to suffer from this disease and they are even injecting some sort of fatty substance into the brain to kick the mind into ketosis rather than running on sugar. (probably botched that explanation up but it sounds like there is some hope)

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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:54 am
by greybeard
Sorry to hear it JD.
It is horrible to watch, as brilliant minds become almost child like. If I had to make a choice, I would rather my physical abilities deteriorate than my mental ones, (not that I'm any kind of mental giant to begin with).

I have a B-I-L that is still physically able to do things as long as someone is standing right there to remind him every few minutes what to do, but he can't keep a thought for more than a few minutes.
And yes, he forgets he has eaten a meal 15 minutes after he's done and will swear he hasn't had a bite to eat yet...and gets pretty upset about it.

I took him and other b-i-l to the sale barn one time and then to eat catfish a few hours later..when we got him back home, he told my sister "I don't know who those guys were, but all they did was just drive around for hours and I haven't had a bite to eat all day". (he had about 3 helpings of all-you-can-eat catfish at the place in Livingston.)
He didn't even remember being at the auction.

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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 12:14 pm
by dun
Friends of ours from califnorna were out to turkey hunt a couple of years ago. Within a week he couldn;t remember how to get to where he needed to go to hunt. He had made it fine on his own when they got here and that was from him remembering the lay of the land from 2 years before. When they got back home it took a couple of months but they figured out he is now diabetic. As soon as that was under control he was back to just like he had been before. Having seen what it can be like to be that far out of touch really scared the crap out of me. I hope if it happens with me I can remember how to load a gun and where to point it.

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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 12:20 pm
by slick4591
What we've noticed with MIL is that she's more alert early in the morning and gets progressively worse as the day goes on. Asked the doc about it and he called it "Sundowners."

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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:51 pm
by ALACOWMAN
hurleyjd wrote:Just heard this week that a classmate of mine was placed in an Alzheimer's disease Unit. He was touring last year with his wife and cousin with trucks and fifth wheels. Never know when something will slip up and bite you in the butt.

That's for sure ,,,a lot of folks take their health for granted,,I did..got
smacked to reality...God bless him

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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:54 pm
by ALACOWMAN
Jogeephus wrote:Horrible disease and sorry about your friend. I have to deal with it every day with someone in my family. At the moment I am paying for caregivers from sunup to dark but after some incidents last week it may turn into round the clock care. I think it would be easier on everyone if we put her in a home but her wish is to die in her home so I'll keep paying caregivers as long as I can.

Don't know much about this but I've been told they are finding a link between dementia and sugar. It sounds like people with heavier meat diets who stay in ketosis more often are less apt to suffer from this disease and they are even injecting some sort of fatty substance into the brain to kick the mind into ketosis rather than running on sugar. (probably botched that explanation up but it sounds like there is some hope)
theyve been linking diet drinks to dementia....

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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:55 pm
by Brute 23
Very sorry to hear that.

My grandmother had dementia before she past this year. Her's was drawn out over a couple years. One doctor early on described it best when he said she will have a bad episode, then recover and be better, then have a bad episode then recover and be better. Every time the bad episodes will get longer and the good times will get shorter until finally there are no good time. At that point she will have a bad episode and never recover.

He was right. It was very hard on our family.

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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 3:12 pm
by Caustic Burno
ALACOWMAN wrote:
Jogeephus wrote:Horrible disease and sorry about your friend. I have to deal with it every day with someone in my family. At the moment I am paying for caregivers from sunup to dark but after some incidents last week it may turn into round the clock care. I think it would be easier on everyone if we put her in a home but her wish is to die in her home so I'll keep paying caregivers as long as I can.

Don't know much about this but I've been told they are finding a link between dementia and sugar. It sounds like people with heavier meat diets who stay in ketosis more often are less apt to suffer from this disease and they are even injecting some sort of fatty substance into the brain to kick the mind into ketosis rather than running on sugar. (probably botched that explanation up but it sounds like there is some hope)
theyve been linking diet drinks to dementia....



Well my grandmother and dad both died of Alzheimer's I don't think they every drank one in their life.
If I remember correctly back then they were claiming it was linked to aluminum powder in deodorant.
I don't think they have a clue myself .

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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 3:45 pm
by Jogeephus
My son was talking about it not to long ago and he said they think it has something to do with sugar. More specifically, the brain's inability to break the sugar down for energy. He said the brain needs energy to function and the body can get the energy the easiest from the use of sugar. From what I understood, they found in dementia patients the brain's ability to use sugar shuts down for some reason. This happens over time and goes unnoticed till the brain is damaged then its to late and the damage is irreversible. He says the human body works best when its in the ketosis mode where the body breaks down meat and fats for energy yet we are told we should eat foods according to the food pyramid which are all high in sugar. He says if you eat more meat and fats and stay clear of the carbs and sugar you will be healthier. In other words, eat more beef but pass on the potatoes and bread.

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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:40 pm
by Workinonit Farm
Jogeephus wrote: He says if you eat more meat and fats and stay clear of the carbs and sugar you will be healthier. In other words, eat more beef but pass on the potatoes and bread.


Similar to the Atkins diet.

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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:42 pm
by Workinonit Farm
We are, currently, dealing with Dementia in our family, my mother. :( I have to say, Dementia $ucks! It is definitely hard on the family. Fortunately, right now, most of the time Mom is happy. She's still in her own home. Dementia is a terrible thing. :(