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Re: 20 trillion in debt

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:50 am
by Nesikep
BK9954 wrote:
farmerjan wrote:Anyone ever dealt with Lear Capital? Heard them advertised on Rush Limbaugh. Got a prospectus in the mail and am considering it. They will also buy back; question is what would you use for the "money" if the dollar goes to he// ? I am a big believer in silver also since it is used in so many industrial applications. It is fairly cheap now, less than $20. I remember when it hit nearly $50 a few years ago. Have only ever invested in actual silver like pre 1964 quarters but am looking to do something while the market is so high and get some of my retirement money into something more safe and sensible than the stock market. Lost too much in 2008 and I am getting too close to retirement now.

You would use hyper inflated dollars or possibly have it paid back in euros or another currency if they are stable. The only good thing about getting hyper inflated dollars back is I could pay off my mortgage with worthless dollars.

as long as you can generate the money to service the debt, it's a good thing to have debt when hyperinflation hits...

That's what scares me about all this corporate land buying, it's all on credit, and when SHTF, they'll own all the assets they and pay for it with garbage money

Re: 20 trillion in debt

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:13 pm
by TexasBred
Nesikep wrote:
BK9954 wrote:
farmerjan wrote:Anyone ever dealt with Lear Capital? Heard them advertised on Rush Limbaugh. Got a prospectus in the mail and am considering it. They will also buy back; question is what would you use for the "money" if the dollar goes to he// ? I am a big believer in silver also since it is used in so many industrial applications. It is fairly cheap now, less than $20. I remember when it hit nearly $50 a few years ago. Have only ever invested in actual silver like pre 1964 quarters but am looking to do something while the market is so high and get some of my retirement money into something more safe and sensible than the stock market. Lost too much in 2008 and I am getting too close to retirement now.

You would use hyper inflated dollars or possibly have it paid back in euros or another currency if they are stable. The only good thing about getting hyper inflated dollars back is I could pay off my mortgage with worthless dollars.

as long as you can generate the money to service the debt, it's a good thing to have debt when hyperinflation hits...

That's what scares me about all this corporate land buying, it's all on credit, and when SHTF, they'll own all the assets they and pay for it with garbage money

It was bought with garbage money as well. Just depends on how far you want to push the rope.

Re: 20 trillion in debt

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:06 pm
by Nesikep
Yeah, that's true too.

Re: 20 trillion in debt

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:29 am
by Stocker Steve
Nesikep wrote:as long as you can generate the money to service the debt, it's a good thing to have debt when hyperinflation hits...
That's what scares me about all this corporate land buying, it's all on credit, and when SHTF, they'll own all the assets they and pay for it with garbage money


We have five families that are expanding in our area. Three buy large blocks of livestock land using FSA subsidized beginner farmer loans, and two rent a lot of crop land. Short term - - the local coffee shop experts don't think any of them are making much of a profit with the current commodity prices and low land appreciation. Longer term - - the land buyers will either go broke :( or profit greatly from the leverage. :banana: What are you betting?

Re: 20 trillion in debt

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:18 am
by True Grit Farms
Stocker Steve wrote:
Nesikep wrote:as long as you can generate the money to service the debt, it's a good thing to have debt when hyperinflation hits...
That's what scares me about all this corporate land buying, it's all on credit, and when SHTF, they'll own all the assets they and pay for it with garbage money


We have five families that are expanding in our area. Three buy large blocks of livestock land using FSA subsidized beginner farmer loans, and two rent a lot of crop land. Short term - - the local coffee shop experts don't think any of them are making much of a profit with the current commodity prices and low land appreciation. Longer term - - the land buyers will either go broke :( or profit greatly from the leverage. :banana: What are you betting?


Profit greatly is my guess. The citizens of this country bail the farmers out on a continuous basis for reasons that make no sense. Some farmers are the hardest working freeloaders in the US of A.

Re: 20 trillion in debt

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:22 am
by BrangusUSA
:?: True Grit can you elaborate on the above statement please?

Re: 20 trillion in debt

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:11 pm
by True Grit Farms
BrangusUSA wrote::?: True Grit can you elaborate on the above statement please?


What part? The subsidies, cost share, low interest loans, beginning farmer loans, EQIP, WHIP, CSP, CRP it's all welfare and food stamps under different names and titles.

Re: 20 trillion in debt

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:20 am
by TexasBred
True Grit Farms wrote:
BrangusUSA wrote::?: True Grit can you elaborate on the above statement please?


What part? The subsidies, cost share, low interest loans, beginning farmer loans, EQIP, WHIP, CSP, CRP it's all welfare and food stamps under different names and titles.

Couldn't help but notice many of those require repayments. How is that a "bailout"???

Re: 20 trillion in debt

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:13 am
by BrangusUSA
True Grit I like my statement better...
"Some farmers are the hardest working people in the US of A."

I haven't personally used any of those programs so I cannot vouch for their use/abuse.