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Amazon narrows list.........

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:55 am
by jltrent
I'm thinking either GA, TN, OR NC because of the east central location, but it may boil down to who offers the most.



Amazon said Thursday it narrowed the list of potential cities for its second headquarters to 20 cities.

Amazon said it will spend $5 billion in the city where it builds its second headquarters, and will employ 50,000 there.

The cities are:

Atlanta, GA
Austin, TX
Boston, MA
Chicago, IL
Columbus, OH
Dallas, TX
Denver, CO
Indianapolis, IN
Los Angeles, CA
Miami, FL
Montgomery County, MD
Nashville, TN
Newark, NJ
New York City, NY
Northern Virginia, VA
Philadelphia, PA
Pittsburgh, PA
Raleigh, NC
Toronto, ON
Washington D.C.
The e-commerce giant received 238 proposals from cities in North America, many with lofty tax incentives and unique offers directed at CEO Jeff Bezos.

"Getting from 238 to 20 was very tough – all the proposals showed tremendous enthusiasm and creativity," Holly Sullivan, an executive with Amazon Public Policy, said in a statement.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compani ... li=BBnb4R7

Re: Amazon narrows list.........

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:26 am
by Brute 23
It will be which ever one appears the most liberal but helps their bottom dollar out the most.

Austin would fit that bill to the T but I'm pretty sure Amazon will X it off of principal alone.

Re: Amazon narrows list.........

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:39 am
by Craig Miller
I'm betting on Nashville. It's liberal and only a couple hours from Memphis. Largest truck to rail hub around and FedEx hub at the airport.

Re: Amazon narrows list.........

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:45 am
by shaz
Craig Miller wrote:I'm betting on Nashville. It's liberal and only a couple hours from Memphis. Largest truck to rail hub around and FedEx hub at the airport.


was going to write "no airline hub but didn't realize it was a Fedex hub.

Re: Amazon narrows list.........

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:33 pm
by Bestoutwest
shaz wrote:
Craig Miller wrote:I'm betting on Nashville. It's liberal and only a couple hours from Memphis. Largest truck to rail hub around and FedEx hub at the airport.


was going to write "no airline hub but didn't realize it was a Fedex hub.


It doesn't matter. Their shipping facilities aren't associated with their headquarters. My bet is Boston. People can live in Maine or New Hampshire (cheaper housing) and take the train right into the city. Major airport, on the ocean. May be a bit too liberal with taxes being a bit too high, but you never know. It will be interesting if Toronto gets it. That'll be quite the blow to America, but of course, people won't stop shopping there. Got to have their low priced crap!

Re: Amazon narrows list.........

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:49 pm
by shaz
Bestoutwest wrote:
shaz wrote:
Craig Miller wrote:I'm betting on Nashville. It's liberal and only a couple hours from Memphis. Largest truck to rail hub around and FedEx hub at the airport.


was going to write "no airline hub but didn't realize it was a Fedex hub.


It doesn't matter. Their shipping facilities aren't associated with their headquarters. My bet is Boston. People can live in Maine or New Hampshire (cheaper housing) and take the train right into the city. Major airport, on the ocean. May be a bit too liberal with taxes being a bit too high, but you never know. It will be interesting if Toronto gets it. That'll be quite the blow to America, but of course, people won't stop shopping there. Got to have their low priced crap!


Electricity is really high and Logan was a pretty small airport last time I was there ...1998.

Re: Amazon narrows list.........

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:57 pm
by Craig Miller
Bestoutwest wrote:people won't stop shopping there. Got to have their low priced crap!


Hey I represent that

Re: Amazon narrows list.........

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:08 pm
by TennesseeTuxedo
I avoid ordering from Amazon at every opportunity. Hate 'em.

Re: Amazon narrows list.........

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:28 pm
by ga.prime
Hope it's not in Atlanta. Then I'd have to start paying sales tax on the stuff I get from them. I think it'll be in Philadelphia.

Re: Amazon narrows list.........

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:45 pm
by Bestoutwest
Craig Miller wrote:
Bestoutwest wrote:people won't stop shopping there. Got to have their low priced crap!


Hey I represent that


I do all the time. There’s no other place to buy books, movies, etc. It sucks, but they’ve put a lot of places out of business.

Re: Amazon narrows list.........

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:51 pm
by TennesseeTuxedo
ga.prime wrote:Hope it's not in Atlanta. Then I'd have to start paying sales tax on the stuff I get from them. I think it'll be in Philadelphia.


Time to put a 10% Federal surcharge tax on all Internet transactions as well as allowing states to collect taxes on all Internet sales within their borders. If Trump wants to stick it to his arch enemy Bezos this would do it.

Re: Amazon narrows list.........

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:42 pm
by Aaron
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
ga.prime wrote:Hope it's not in Atlanta. Then I'd have to start paying sales tax on the stuff I get from them. I think it'll be in Philadelphia.


Time to put a 10% Federal surcharge tax on all Internet transactions as well as allowing states to collect taxes on all Internet sales within their borders. If Trump wants to stick it to his arch enemy Bezos this would do it.


You would make a phenomenal liberal Canadian. They love to tax the living shyt out of everything a person buys. Tax a tax upon a tax.

Re: Amazon narrows list.........

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:22 pm
by TennesseeTuxedo
Aaron wrote:
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
ga.prime wrote:Hope it's not in Atlanta. Then I'd have to start paying sales tax on the stuff I get from them. I think it'll be in Philadelphia.


Time to put a 10% Federal surcharge tax on all Internet transactions as well as allowing states to collect taxes on all Internet sales within their borders. If Trump wants to stick it to his arch enemy Bezos this would do it.


You would make a phenomenal liberal Canadian. They love to tax the living shyt out of everything a person buys. Tax a tax upon a tax.


There was a time when the Internet was a fledgling enterprise that special consideration vis a vis preferential tax treatment was justifiable. That time has passed. There is no excuse for sales online to go untaxed when businesses in local communities are forced to collect them. I'm sorry you can't process that. Too much cold air perhaps.

Re: Amazon narrows list.........

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:13 pm
by Aaron
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
Aaron wrote:
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
Time to put a 10% Federal surcharge tax on all Internet transactions as well as allowing states to collect taxes on all Internet sales within their borders. If Trump wants to stick it to his arch enemy Bezos this would do it.


You would make a phenomenal liberal Canadian. They love to tax the living shyt out of everything a person buys. Tax a tax upon a tax.


There was a time when the Internet was a fledgling enterprise that special consideration vis a vis preferential tax treatment was justifiable. That time has passed. There is no excuse for sales online to go untaxed when businesses in local communities are forced to collect them. I'm sorry you can't process that. Too much cold air perhaps.


Taxing online purchases is not going to save the mom and pop stores. They can't begin to compete on price even without tax. Brick and mortar stores will eventually all go away, big and small all require too much investment and upkeep.

I come from the school of thought that less tax is always better, not advocating for more of it.

Re: Amazon narrows list.........

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:28 pm
by Brute 23
Aaron wrote:
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
Aaron wrote:
You would make a phenomenal liberal Canadian. They love to tax the living shyt out of everything a person buys. Tax a tax upon a tax.


There was a time when the Internet was a fledgling enterprise that special consideration vis a vis preferential tax treatment was justifiable. That time has passed. There is no excuse for sales online to go untaxed when businesses in local communities are forced to collect them. I'm sorry you can't process that. Too much cold air perhaps.


Taxing online purchases is not going to save the mom and pop stores. They can't begin to compete on price even without tax. Brick and mortar stores will eventually all go away, big and small all require too much investment and upkeep.

I come from the school of thought that less tax is always better, not advocating for more of it.


Time will tell but I think the future is going to be hybrid stores. Basically you can order online but there is store front to pick up, touch, feel, return, etc if need be. It will be like ordering take out pizza IMO.

It will be interesting to see.