Long haul truckers future looks dim..........

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Re: Long haul truckers future looks dim..........

Postby Stocker Steve » Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:05 am

bball wrote:Automation with rapid technology advancements is the immediate future. It IS happening and improving daily. With the rapid rate that technology advances, It is inevitable, and much sooner than many are willing to accept. The question i have: what will a significant portion of the population do for employment in the near future? Very few areas of the employment sector are left uneffected by these advancements.


I see the AI articles too, but around here there are help wanted signs. I think the bigger issue is are these not high tech jobs paying a living wage?
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Postby Craig Miller » Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:30 am

haase wrote:Let's see how many people get on a airplane without a pilot.


http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/08/technology/ehang-self-flying-drone/index.html
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Re: Long haul truckers future looks dim..........

Postby bball » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:00 am

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bball wrote:Automation with rapid technology advancements is the immediate future. It IS happening and improving daily. With the rapid rate that technology advances, It is inevitable, and much sooner than many are willing to accept. The question i have: what will a significant portion of the population do for employment in the near future? Very few areas of the employment sector are left uneffected by these advancements.


I see the AI articles too, but around here there are help wanted signs. I think the bigger issue is are these not high tech jobs paying a living wage?


Steve, this is exactly what i was driving at. How exactly will a good portion of our population support themselves as jobs disappear to automation and technology improvements, and many of the jobs that do remain, may not command a wage to support a family(without getting into a debate about quality of life; needs vs. wants).
I think some trades will continue to do well and a quality tradesman will be in demand as usual. Some days i feel like the whole world is turning into nothing but IF, THEN, ELSE statements, or just a series of 1's and 0's...
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Re: Long haul truckers future looks dim..........

Postby True Grit Farms » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:44 am

bball wrote:
Stocker Steve wrote:
bball wrote:Automation with rapid technology advancements is the immediate future. It IS happening and improving daily. With the rapid rate that technology advances, It is inevitable, and much sooner than many are willing to accept. The question i have: what will a significant portion of the population do for employment in the near future? Very few areas of the employment sector are left uneffected by these advancements.


I see the AI articles too, but around here there are help wanted signs. I think the bigger issue is are these not high tech jobs paying a living wage?


Steve, this is exactly what i was driving at. How exactly will a good portion of our population support themselves as jobs disappear to automation and technology improvements, and many of the jobs that do remain, may not command a wage to support a family(without getting into a debate about quality of life; needs vs. wants).
I think some trades will continue to do well and a quality tradesman will be in demand as usual. Some days i feel like the whole world is turning into nothing but IF, THEN, ELSE statements, or just a series of 1's and 0's...

There's not a problem in the world that population control can't fix. Just no money in that kind of thinking, we're going breed our way into poverty and possibly extinction.
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Postby Farm Fence Solutions » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:30 am

greybeard wrote:Service industry bball..especially healthcare and mining.


And fencing. Every good fencer I know is months behind. Some are more than a year out. There will always be some jobs that will take manual labor, and that's where guys as dumb as me come in. ;-)
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Re: Long haul truckers future looks dim..........

Postby 1982vett » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:56 am

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greybeard wrote:Service industry bball..especially healthcare and mining.


And fencing. Every good fencer I know is months behind. Some are more than a year out. There will always be some jobs that will take manual labor, and that's where guys as dumb as me come in. ;-)

Think about that....Even you have pretty much mechanized the post hole digger. Evolution to your post driver. How many laborers has that put out of work to keep new fences semi affordable?
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Postby Stocker Steve » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:21 am

Farm Fence Solutions wrote:
greybeard wrote:Service industry bball..especially healthcare and mining.


And fencing. Every good fencer I know is months behind. Some are more than a year out. There will always be some jobs that will take manual labor, and that's where guys as dumb as me come in. ;-)


Very hard to get contractors here. Does not seem that young people are interested in trades.
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Re: Long haul truckers future looks dim..........

Postby haase » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:34 am

I realize that pilots have less work to do in the cockpit than years before, when I get on a airplane it is still good to see a flight crew, they are still watching over everything. In the case of a semi I still think you still have someone watching over it.
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Re: Long haul truckers future looks dim..........

Postby Farm Fence Solutions » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:47 am

1982vett wrote:
Farm Fence Solutions wrote:
greybeard wrote:Service industry bball..especially healthcare and mining.


And fencing. Every good fencer I know is months behind. Some are more than a year out. There will always be some jobs that will take manual labor, and that's where guys as dumb as me come in. ;-)

Think about that....Even you have pretty much mechanized the post hole digger. Evolution to your post driver. How many laborers has that put out of work to keep new fences semi affordable?


In my situation, the refinement of my equipment was dictated by the lack of available labor. My last full timer made better than $30 an hour, and I’d gladly pay another one the same. Nobody wants the job, and it’s not without reason. I’m hoping to get a few more years out of my body before it totally quits me. I’m to the point in my career where it’s time to cash in on what I’ve learned, and all the equipment I’ve paid for.
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Re: Long haul truckers future looks dim..........

Postby boondocks » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:10 pm

True Grit Farms wrote:There's not a problem in the world that population control can't fix. Just no money in that kind of thinking, we're going breed our way into poverty and possibly extinction.


With the CDC cutbacks and fiascos, and lack of funding for infectious disease research, a hemorraghic fever disease will luckily take us all out before we starve. :)

Seriously, kinda agree with you about population. Why are so many people anti-birth-control? I say put it in the water. (J/k. Mostly).
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Re: Long haul truckers future looks dim..........

Postby TexasBred » Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:09 pm

boondocks wrote:
True Grit Farms wrote:There's not a problem in the world that population control can't fix. Just no money in that kind of thinking, we're going breed our way into poverty and possibly extinction.


With the CDC cutbacks and fiascos, and lack of funding for infectious disease research, a hemorraghic fever disease will luckily take us all out before we starve. :)

Seriously, kinda agree with you about population. Why are so many people anti-birth-control? I say put it in the water. (J/k. Mostly).

Might want check up on potential consequences for all women not to mention men from consuming this stuff in unmeasured quantities everyday. Might as well be slipping arsenic in the water for some. Just keep your legs together and let others worry about theirs.
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Re: Long haul truckers future looks dim..........

Postby boondocks » Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:00 pm

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Might want check up on potential consequences for all women not to mention men from consuming this stuff in unmeasured quantities everyday. Might as well be slipping arsenic in the water for some. Just keep your legs together and let others worry about theirs.


Well, there's lots of different methods of BC. The one you mention (abstinence) doesn't seem to be working that well. The schools that teach "abstinence-only" birth control have the highest rates of teen pregnancy.

If we could find a way to do a truly-temporary vasectomy, we could give them (voluntarily! no duress!) to all males at age 18. (I'd say 15 or 16 but 18 is probably the age of legit consent). Maybe give them a grand for each year they don't father a kid until age 25? :hide:
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Re: Long haul truckers future looks dim..........

Postby True Grit Farms » Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:57 pm

boondocks wrote:
TexasBred wrote:[
Might want check up on potential consequences for all women not to mention men from consuming this stuff in unmeasured quantities everyday. Might as well be slipping arsenic in the water for some. Just keep your legs together and let others worry about theirs.


Well, there's lots of different methods of BC. The one you mention (abstinence) doesn't seem to be working that well. The schools that teach "abstinence-only" birth control have the highest rates of teen pregnancy.

If we could find a way to do a truly-temporary vasectomy, we could give them (voluntarily! no duress!) to all males at age 18. (I'd say 15 or 16 but 18 is probably the age of legit consent). Maybe give them a grand for each year they don't father a kid until age 25? :hide:

I like a one time payment of $10,000 or $20,0000 dollars to anyone that permanently gets fixed, no reversals.
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Re: Long haul truckers future looks dim..........

Postby Waterway65 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:56 pm

I don't think it will be long before Walmart and other corporations will have self driving trucks, probably electric to boot. The idea and incentive is there.
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Postby TexasBred » Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:51 pm

boondocks wrote:
TexasBred wrote:[
Might want check up on potential consequences for all women not to mention men from consuming this stuff in unmeasured quantities everyday. Might as well be slipping arsenic in the water for some. Just keep your legs together and let others worry about theirs.


Well, there's lots of different methods of BC. The one you mention (abstinence) doesn't seem to be working that well. The schools that teach "abstinence-only" birth control have the highest rates of teen pregnancy.

If we could find a way to do a truly-temporary vasectomy, we could give them (voluntarily! no duress!) to all males at age 18. (I'd say 15 or 16 but 18 is probably the age of legit consent). Maybe give them a grand for each year they don't father a kid until age 25? :hide:

So you want the male to take all the responsibility. Let's put fertile Myrtle on birth control too??
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