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Re: Tillerson Out; Pompeo In

Postby jehosofat » Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:49 pm

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I think you have the wrong administration.

Not at all. I"m pulling for him hard but seems all he wants is a bunch of "yes men and women". Dare disagree and you're history. Do nothing but parrott what he says.


Trump the business man did not grow his business by hiring a$$ kissers. No successful business person makes it by hiring cheerleaders. That statement is simply wrong. President Trump is not putting parrotts in place. He is putting men/women in place that will do a job that is expected and stand up for what they believe is the right way to execute. Granted he may over ride they're opinons, but that is life


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Re: Tillerson Out; Pompeo In

Postby saltbranch » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:02 pm

I am curious. If you are the Owner of a company or the President of the USA. Do you put yes men/women in positions of authority or do you put people in place that will argue their view of the best way to reach a goal?
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Re: Tillerson Out; Pompeo In

Postby 1wlimo » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:00 pm

saltbranch wrote:I am curious. If you are the Owner of a company or the President of the USA. Do you put yes men/women in positions of authority or do you put people in place that will argue their view of the best way to reach a goal?


You should have people that can argue their point but the team reach consensus. Way too many want to have yes people to preen their ego.
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Re: Tillerson Out; Pompeo In

Postby Nesikep » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:41 am

The whole party politics system is a "yes men" idea and counterproductive to real democracy..
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Re: Tillerson Out; Pompeo In

Postby hurleyjd » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:01 am

Chocolate Cow2 wrote:Mark Levin spent a lot of time tonight talking about this. He's totally thrilled to see Tillerson go. Tillerson went against Trump's directive on Iran. Tillerson backed keeping the U.S. in the landmark 2015 agreement between Iran, the U.S. and five other world powers. Trump has frequently blasted the deal as an "embarrassment" and has pledged to drop out unless it is "fixed." Tillerson was committed to the deal, however, saying the U.S. would work with allies to address Trump's concerns.

Every think about this the Leader of Israel shows up who has been fighting for his political life and is very much against the Iran deal. Tillerson wanted to keep the Iran deal and Trump and Neninyahoo wanted it dead or re-neogaited. Looks to be a really big war looming over there USA and Israel against Syria, Iran and Russia.
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Re: Tillerson Out; Pompeo In

Postby TexasBred » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:27 am

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Trump the business man did not grow his business by hiring a$$ kissers. No successful business person makes it by hiring cheerleaders. That statement is simply wrong. President Trump is not putting parrotts in place. He is putting men/women in place that will do a job that is expected and stand up for what they believe is the right way to execute. Granted he may over ride they're opinons, but that is life

Trump consistently argues that he only hires the best people, and when in office his inner circle will consist of “people you’ve never heard of that are better than all of them”. But one source with intimate knowledge of Trump’s working practice, who declined to be named, disagreed entirely.

“He says he’s going to get the best people around. But he doesn’t do that – he never has,” said the source.

“Because he doesn’t listen to them, and then they leave. And if anybody is ever credited with doing anything good, he gets rid of them because he hates when anybody else gets credit.”

Pinkett, too, was struck by the groupthink of Trump’s inner circle in 2005. “They tend not just to look like him but also think like him,” he said. “So it kind of reinforces his way of thinking.”

Both Res and Pinkett – who have gone on to forge high-powered careers outside of the Trump Organization – said they had not heard from Trump in years following incidents they believed may have been branded acts of disloyalty. (Pinkett called Trump in 2012 to tell him he found his birther campaign against Barack Obama offensive, and Res wrote a book about her time in the organization she believed her former boss did not like; she was cold-shouldered at an event after it was published.)

Res was present in the organization when Trump hit rock bottom. It was the early 1990s, when serious questions were first asked about Trump’s true worth, when an affair with Marla Maples ended his first marriage, and when his investments in Atlantic City casinos nosedived.

“At the exact time it was happening, he blamed it on other people,” Res recalled. He blamed the casino managers, and, according to Res, argued he was “too involved with seeing other women and not paying enough attention”.

“He said that. I’m not making that up,” Res added.
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Re: Tillerson Out; Pompeo In

Postby greybeard » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:59 am

hurleyjd wrote:Every think about this the Leader of Israel shows up who has been fighting for his political life and is very much against the Iran deal. Tillerson wanted to keep the Iran deal and Trump and Neninyahoo wanted it dead or re-neogaited. Looks to be a really big war looming over there USA and Israel against Syria, Iran and Russia.

Not yet there won't be. Proxy wars maybe, and clandestine operations, but not open warfare where the US vs Russia face off directly. There is no mistaking that Putin is a very very dangerous man, but the danger comes from his intelligence and not from the brute force his predecessors used during the Soviet era. He has a very good understanding of the world as it is and has out maneuvered the West at every turn in recent years. Globally, Russia is also the the home of the 6th largest concentration of those who either identify completely with the Jewish faith or have strong family connections with it. Putin needs their support in his own fight with Islamic extremists within his own country and has publicly invited back to Russia, all those of that faith that left during the Czarist and Soviet eras. He's no dummy, and will play both sides and all edges of the coin, and that again, is what makes him so dangerous.

From a meeting of the European Jewish Council, In Moscow with Putin.


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Re: Tillerson Out; Pompeo In

Postby snoopdog » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:36 am

Mr. Putin has an estimated worth of 200 billion.
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Re: Tillerson Out; Pompeo In

Postby TexasBred » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:53 pm

snoopdog wrote:Mr. Putin has an estimated worth of 200 billion.

I'm not going to be the one to look him dead in the eye and tell him he absolutely cannot steal another billion or two.
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Re: Tillerson Out; Pompeo In

Postby hurleyjd » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:21 am

What is happening in the executive branch of the government is not good for us.
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Re: Tillerson Out; Pompeo In

Postby jehosofat » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:38 am

hurleyjd wrote:What is happening in the executive branch of the government is not good for us.


Really? Care to elaborate.
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Re: Tillerson Out; Pompeo In

Postby True Grit Farms » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:43 am

hurleyjd wrote:What is happening in the executive branch of the government is not good for us.


Happened is a better word. What's going on is something I've never seen in government, which I feel is good.
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Re: Tillerson Out; Pompeo In

Postby TennesseeTuxedo » Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:29 pm

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hurleyjd wrote:What is happening in the executive branch of the government is not good for us.


Happened is a better word. What's going on is something I've never seen in government, which I feel is good.


I'm not too keen on the spending bill that was just signed today.
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Re: Tillerson Out; Pompeo In

Postby Bright Raven » Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:31 pm

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hurleyjd wrote:What is happening in the executive branch of the government is not good for us.


Happened is a better word. What's going on is something I've never seen in government, which I feel is good.


First, isn't politics forbidden fruit? This has gone 2 pages, must be cool!

I agree. Trump does not follow the traditions other Presidents have followed. Time will tell what effect it will have on the Office of the President

This country has a serious problem. The loyalty to a party trumps objectivity. For example, if Trump was a Democrat, there would be outrage from the religious right about his character (not going to cite the details but it has to do with allegations from women). Yet, not as much as a whisper unless I have missed it! If you look, other public celebrities are being burnt at the stake for less.
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