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Re: Transfer Paperwork

Postby NEFarmwife » Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:57 pm

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Yeah, it has been a disaster. We bought them open but they were not cheap. I don't want to give away too much but they were full blooded SAV's coming out of a complete dispersal. We were bidding against Deer Valley if that tells you the quality.

My father is calmer than me and he bought them so it's on him. So far they have produced all females so he has just turned them into recips. Either way, it's not ideal.

Because of that I don't buy at sales where I don't know the people anymore or at least have a good conversation. Some guys are good cattlemen and bad with keeping paperwork. I have no doubt the numbers on these are legit but they are essentially a business loss given that we can't do anything with them in terms of registration.


Was there a sale manager or management group in charge of the sale that you can contact? How about contacting the American Angus Association for help?


He's trying to help me with it. I have the guy's cell phone and have been trying to call it.

My thought it that eventually the Angus Association is going to have to go to instant transfers. Get rid of all of the paper certificates and move only to e-filing. It takes all of 30 seconds to transfer. I've just heard of these problems popping up too often for a lot of different reasons.


I went in and changed our registration papers to electronic this morning. Be great if it were all automated that way. I understand you'd need that registration paper in certain circumstances but maybe that could be a specific request.

Although the physical copy, the first registered cow my husband and I bought together, felt good to have in my hands. :)
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Re: Transfer Paperwork

Postby SchenkAngusFarm » Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:01 pm

NEFarmwife wrote:
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Was there a sale manager or management group in charge of the sale that you can contact? How about contacting the American Angus Association for help?


He's trying to help me with it. I have the guy's cell phone and have been trying to call it.

My thought it that eventually the Angus Association is going to have to go to instant transfers. Get rid of all of the paper certificates and move only to e-filing. It takes all of 30 seconds to transfer. I've just heard of these problems popping up too often for a lot of different reasons.


I went in and changed our registration papers to electronic this morning. Be great if it were all automated that way. I understand you'd need that registration paper in certain circumstances but maybe that could be a specific request.

Although the physical copy, the first registered cow my husband and I bought together, felt good to have in my hands. :)


I certainly understand that. It make sense and yes, I think they should be available for special occasions but I think they should be more commemorative at this point.

I just sold a bull to a guy last week through private treaty and he asked me when I would have the paperwork to him and I told him he already had it. I did it while he was loading him on the trailer. :D
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Re: Transfer Paperwork

Postby NEFarmwife » Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:22 am

My husband reached out to this gentleman again a few days ago, that man forwarded a screenshot of registration to show it had been completed. Member # and last name were wrong (assume they thru out a new member # since he submitted incorrect spelling). Easy fix on our end. Spoke with Angus Association this morning.

She says we'll receive the paperwork from him with incorrect spelling but in their system, it'll show the correction. That we can have him resubmit the correction but it may be like pulling hairs since they didn't even receive the paperwork till this past Wednesday. 4 months after purchase!

She also stated that since it has been corrected on their end, it wouldn't effect any future transfers, registrations, etc...

FWIW. Just wanted to share our experience. He won't be getting our business again.
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Re: Transfer Paperwork

Postby gizmom » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:37 pm

We try really hard to get transfer done in a timely manner. I can’t tell you we always succeed. I have been known to miss one, when you transfer papers on one that are stored electronically they send the seller the papers to forward to the new owners. If the new owner stores electronically the association sends the seller a notification that the transfer was completed. At least that is how it works in the Angus association. I have screwed up enough times that I have a pretty good system worked out on processing paperwork now. And since I was foolish enough to say that I will totally screw up the next transaction.

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Re: Transfer Paperwork

Postby NEFarmwife » Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:02 pm

gizmom wrote:We try really hard to get transfer done in a timely manner. I can’t tell you we always succeed. I have been known to miss one, when you transfer papers on one that are stored electronically they send the seller the papers to forward to the new owners. If the new owner stores electronically the association sends the seller a notification that the transfer was completed. At least that is how it works in the Angus association. I have screwed up enough times that I have a pretty good system worked out on processing paperwork now. And since I was foolish enough to say that I will totally screw up the next transaction.

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We're all human and mistakes will and can be made. But a bit of customer service goes a long ways. He was hard to get a response from, I felt completely ignored. We farm, we run cows...I know folks like him are busy but there has to be time made for taking care of business. Especially when you're wanting to sell and build a good reputation.
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