Gar Phenom 7953

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Gar Phenom 7953

Postby Air gator » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:43 pm

Does anyone know anything about Gar Phenom 7953? His milk epd is a little high.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6IjS4 ... hTZkU/view
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Re: Gar Phenom 7953

Postby Hogtiming » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:51 pm

That Gar would steer me clear of him. Unless you are just wanting stockers
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Re: Gar Phenom 7953

Postby Air gator » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:47 pm

I wouldn't go whole herd on GAR but I think you can pick your spots. What would you think of him if you didn't know he was a GAR bull?
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Re: Gar Phenom 7953

Postby Son of Butch » Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:41 am

Awfully nice looking and I'd be very proud to own him... and get him to a breed sale to cash out.
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Re: Gar Phenom 7953

Postby wbvs58 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:30 am

I like him. He has a lot of volume. I don't mind a high milk EPD. He would be a good bull for my Prophet daughters who are doing a good job on their 1st calves.

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Re: Gar Phenom 7953

Postby southernultrablack » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:04 am

Hogtiming wrote:That Gar would steer me clear of him. Unless you are just wanting stockers

What's the negative about GAR influence? Not trying to start anything, just curious.
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Re: Gar Phenom 7953

Postby Air gator » Sat Nov 04, 2017 2:18 pm

The argument is that all the emphasis has been put on carcass traits at the expense of everything else...like structure/ conformation and longevity. There is no question that Gardiner's focus is on carcass but if you check out their videos on Youtube it does make sense. The number one reason an animal doesn't qualify for Certified Angus Beef is a lack of marbling. And if your steers qualify for CAB you make more money and the consumer is satisfied...but there are many detractors.
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Re: Gar Phenom 7953

Postby southernultrablack » Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:09 pm

Air gator wrote:The argument is that all the emphasis has been put on carcass traits at the expense of everything else...like structure/ conformation and longevity. There is no question that Gardiner's focus is on carcass but if you check out their videos on Youtube it does make sense. The number one reason an animal doesn't qualify for Certified Angus Beef is a lack of marbling. And if your steers qualify for CAB you make more money and the consumer is satisfied...but there are many detractors.

Thanks AG, I appreciate the info.
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Re: Gar Phenom 7953

Postby jscunn » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:59 pm

AIr Gator,

That bull looks pretty darn good imo.
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Re: Gar Phenom 7953

Postby Bovine breeder » Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:09 pm

He is one of the most stylish Gardiner bulls I’ve seen in a while. However he does look very short strided in the video
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Re: Gar Phenom 7953

Postby Air gator » Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:51 pm

Bovine,
I'll take a chance on him. There are worse bulls than him being used and I don't think I could raise anything that nice at home.
I would like to add some marbling to my herd. I don't want well marbled train wrecks but I look at some popular bulls that are way below breed average for marbling and wonder if it's a bad idea to use them.
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